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Um, what is this floating in my Secondary?

Discussion in 'Fermentation & Yeast' started by NoisufnoC, Oct 17, 2010.

?

What do you think?

  1. Rack It!

  2. Dump It!

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  1. #1
    NoisufnoC

    Well-Known Member

    Posted Oct 17, 2010
    I bought Northern Brewer's Kinderweisse Limited Edition kit. Primary went okay, my OG was a little low. I racked it into my secondary and this morning I was going to rack it into a keg when I noticed this.

    [​IMG]
    [​IMG]

    I realize this is a sour beer, no boil, and it gets its sourness from bacteria, right? But are we talking about the difference between mold on blue cheese and mold on cheddar cheese? (My wife came up with that comparison :D)

    What do you guys think?
     
  2. #2
    ChshreCat

    Well-Known Member

    Posted Oct 17, 2010
    Looks like mold to me. I'd rack it to a keg ASAP and avoid that little bit.
     
  3. #3
    KingBrianI

    Well-Known Member

    Posted Oct 17, 2010
    Toxic slime mold.
     
  4. #4
    ChshreCat

    Well-Known Member

    Posted Oct 17, 2010
    Wait, I'm not experienced with laco and brett. Is this the start of the pellicle?
     
  5. #5
    Sean

    Well-Known Member

    Posted Oct 17, 2010
    Looks like a frog!,

    Sorry, no help!!
     
  6. #6
    MeatyPortion

    Internet Bartender  

    Posted Oct 17, 2010
    It looks like caulk, sort of.

    Weird.
     
  7. #7
    logdrum

    Well-Known Member

    Posted Oct 17, 2010
    Kinda looks like a dog to me. A tiny dog swimming in your secondary. Sorry not much help. I would get it into the keg as advised above.
     
  8. #8
    ChshreCat

    Well-Known Member

    Posted Oct 17, 2010
    Not sure that's such a good idea anymore. Maybe some folks that know sours better than me can come and chime in. If this recipe uses brett, then you're in for a long time in that secondary.
     
  9. #9
    NoisufnoC

    Well-Known Member

    Posted Oct 17, 2010
    yeast used was Wyeast 3191 Berliner Weiss, per the kit's recommendation
     
  10. #10
    blizzard

    Well-Known Member  

    Posted Oct 17, 2010
    In my limited experience I would say that is not the start of a pellicle (for me they start more a thin film than a blob). I think it looks like mold.
     
  11. #11
    muscleshoalsbrewer

    Well-Known Member

    Posted Oct 17, 2010
    Looks like Bird Crap to me......?????
     
  12. #12
    NoisufnoC

    Well-Known Member

    Posted Oct 17, 2010
    haha.

    so the million dollar question: Rack it or Dump it?
     
  13. #13
    ChshreCat

    Well-Known Member

    Posted Oct 17, 2010
    NO!NO!NO!NO!NO!

    The only question here is rack it now or rack it later.

    DO NOT DUMP IT!

    If this is just the brett working, then you probably want to wait it out. If it's mold, rack from under it and keg as normal. This is NOT a dumper!
     
  14. #14
    JonK331

    Well-Known Member

    Posted Oct 17, 2010
    Actually those two molds are the same, especially if you put your blue cheese on the same plate or board and then store them away. The mold from the blue will carry over to the cheddar.

    I'm really not sure what that is in your beer.
     
  15. #15
    IrregularPulse

    Hobby Collector  

    Posted Oct 17, 2010
    I agree, Frog.
     
  16. #16
    AZ_IPA

    PKU  

    Posted Oct 17, 2010
    No. Sea turtle covered with oil from the BP spill ;)
     
  17. #17
    SwampassJ

    Well-Known Member

    Posted Oct 17, 2010
    Post these pictures in the lambic section, those weirdos will know what it is.
     
  18. #18
    NoisufnoC

    Well-Known Member

    Posted Oct 18, 2010
    posted it up over there too
     
  19. #19
    ChshreCat

    Well-Known Member

    Posted Oct 18, 2010
    Just have to say... regardless of how the poll turns out, if you dump this you are a fool.
     
  20. #20
    smellysell

    Well-Known Member

    Posted Oct 18, 2010
    I've never seen anything like that in any of my sour beers. I'd rack from under it ASAP personally. Definitely don't toss it though.
     
  21. #21
    GuldTuborg

    Supporting Member  

    Posted Oct 18, 2010
    That kinda looks like fish skin to me. Have you eaten seafood this week? You didn't get drunk and do something silly, did you?:drunk:
     
  22. #22
    NoisufnoC

    Well-Known Member

    Posted Oct 19, 2010
    FG is 1022

    Doesnt taste bad, the description on NB compared it to a lemonade like sourness. I do get some lemonade like taste. I supposed I'll rack it and see what it tastes like carbonated.
     
  23. #23
    MeatyPortion

    Internet Bartender  

    Posted Oct 19, 2010
    Go for it. Dumping it won't let you know anything. Please continue to post updates, I'm curious as to what happens.
     
  24. #24
    trigger

    Well-Known Member

    Posted Oct 19, 2010
    I say it's a frog with fetal alcohol syndrome...

    tasteless joke. rack it, carb it, chill it, try it. If it sucks then, well, dump it.
     
  25. #25
    bwomp313

    Well-Known Member

    Posted Oct 19, 2010
    definitely a frog. and i agree, maybe lambic weirdos will know what's up with this
     
  26. #26
    Boerderij_Kabouter

    Well-Known Member

    Posted Oct 19, 2010
    Rack immediately. You will likely be fine as long as the acidity is pretty high.
     
  27. #27
    Sean

    Well-Known Member

    Posted Oct 20, 2010
    Write in on the poll: RALPH NADER!!
     
    samc likes this.
  28. #28
    gallagherman

    Well-Known Member

    Posted Oct 20, 2010
    It looks like a fungus. Maybe you could just scrape it off? :/
     
  29. #29
    lumpher

    Well-Known Member

    Posted Oct 20, 2010
    2 guys in my club had a regular beer that soured on them. 2 years later, they won a gold at bluebonnet with it. like ChshreCat says (and i WILL NOT argue with him), keep it if you can
     
  30. #30
    Livendadream

    Well-Known Member

    Posted Oct 20, 2010
    Kraken!Get a harpoon now.
     
  31. #31
    Livendadream

    Well-Known Member

    Posted Oct 20, 2010
    Sorry I got excited. Rack that brew, age, consume. Do not be a scared.
     
  32. #32
    ChshreCat

    Well-Known Member

    Posted Oct 20, 2010
    +1 I'd lay money it'll be a brew you look back on and think was one of your better ones.
     
  33. #33
    NoisufnoC

    Well-Known Member

    Posted Oct 22, 2010
    well, i'm embarrassed.

    i can hear the "i told you so"'s now

    [​IMG]

    i didn't make time to rack it into the keg, checked it 10 mins ago and found that. :sigh:
     
  34. #34
    NoisufnoC

    Well-Known Member

    Posted Oct 22, 2010
    I just kegged it. Worst case I dump it.

    It didn't smell funky while racking, maybe it'll be okay
     
  35. #35
    schweaty

    Doe Re Mi Beer  

    Posted Oct 22, 2010
  36. #36
    smellysell

    Well-Known Member

    Posted Oct 23, 2010
    You said it's a Flanders or something right? That's the start of a pellicle.
     
  37. #37
    Walker

    I use secondaries. :p  

    Posted Oct 23, 2010
    Man, that made me laugh tears.... :mug:
     
  38. #38
    ScrewyBrewer

    ezRecipe Design - Beer Recipe Design Made Easy!  

    Posted Oct 23, 2010
    To me it looks like a frog swimming laps, definitely not pellicle. I had a layer of pellicle form on a wheat beer I bottled 2 weeks ago. The beer tasted fine and had an interesting lemon taste that wasn't bitter or sour. I put 2 bottles in the fridge yesterday and I'm going to drink them on Sunday.

    [​IMG]
    Pellicle Floating On Wheat Beer
     
  39. #39
    smellysell

    Well-Known Member

    Posted Oct 23, 2010
    The first pic I don't know what is (I agree it looks like a frog), but the second pic looks exactly how every pellicle I've ever had has started.
     
  40. #40
    gratefuldisc

    Well-Known Member

    Posted Oct 23, 2010
    OP, did you say no boil??
     
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