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Tips for large starter (4L) no stir plate...

Discussion in 'Fermentation & Yeast' started by Apoxbrew, May 3, 2011.

 

  1. #1
    Apoxbrew

    Well-Known Member

    Posted May 3, 2011
    I'm going to be making a 4L starter of Wyeast 1056. 2 packs for the 4L. A couple questions:

    1) I don't have a stir plate... I'll be able to shake up every couple hours when home, but I have to work and sleep... so there's like 16 hours there where it's on its own. Any suggestions (that don't involve a stir plate) to optimize cell growth given the afore mentioned schedule?

    2) Also, how much DME should one use for said 4L?

    3) Finally, any suggestions on a vessel? Obviously my 1gal growler isn't going to cut it. Need something in the 1.5 to 2gal range I suppose.

    Thanks folks!
     
  2. #2
    JLW

    Well-Known Member

    Posted May 3, 2011
    1) I don't have stir plate and haven't had an issue with cell growth. I haven't needed a starter that large yet but I have made 3 liter starters and had fermentation take off within 6 hours.
    2) Essentially you need 100 grams per liter of starter
    3) I use the bucket that AHS ships the liquid extract in. I do AG now but saved the buckets for future use and they work very well for me.

    Here is an article along with the Mr. Malty Calculator attached to the article.

    http://www.mrmalty.com/pitching.php
     
  3. #3
    BrewThruYou

    Well-Known Member

    Posted May 3, 2011
    5L flask with Fermcap? The 5L flasks are pretty expensive though.

    And the 1 gallon clear glass jugs won't cut it...even though they are ultra-cheap (like $4 or $5).
     
  4. #4
    JLW

    Well-Known Member

    Posted May 3, 2011
    I guess you could also make two 2L starters?
     
  5. #5
    Apoxbrew

    Well-Known Member

    Posted May 3, 2011
    LOL... I'm retarded and didn't even think of that. Perfect idea since I'm using two smack packs anyway!!! Thanks!!
     
  6. #6
    lurker18

    Well-Known Member  

    Posted May 3, 2011
    +1. Two growlers with one pack in each. Works for me.
     
  7. #7
    BryceL

    Well-Known Member

    Posted May 3, 2011
    This is exactly what I did for a lager I just made. I needed a 4L starter but didn't have anything big enough. I had two 1 gallon growlers so I just used one vial in each. I figured it's easier that way, rather than stepping up to one 4L starter...I don't think it's advisable to go straight to a 4L starter anyways.
     
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