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Three crops

Discussion in 'Beginners Beer Brewing Forum' started by moboy, Oct 31, 2012.

 

  1. #1
    moboy

    Well-Known Member

    Posted Oct 31, 2012
    I brewed my first all grain brew on Monday with only a few hiccups. My
    biggest problem was a pump issue. I have two march pumps and had trouble
    getting a good prime. In hindsight I should have brewed my first ag on a
    simple gravity feed setup instead of my newly built single tier two pump
    system. There is a real learning curve to AG brewing and having to learn the
    pump operation caused unnecessary stress. However, after a few dozen cuss
    words and a beer break (in which I re-read the instructions) I managed to
    get both pumps primed.



    Time was my second problem. I choose BierMuncher's Three Crops (Cream Ale)
    recipe that requires a three hour mash and a three hour boil. This made for
    a very long brew day. I would have been better served cooking a more
    traditional beer requiring only 1 hour mash and 70 minute boil.



    My third and most frustrating problem happened at the end of the cook as I
    attempted to pump my wort into the carboys. I primed and re-primed my pump
    over and over again but could not get the pump to work. After an hour of
    priming and re-priming it suddenly occurred to me that my wort chiller was
    smashing my dip to the bottom of my keggle. Once I removed the wort chiller
    my pumps works perfectly.



    All and all I truly enjoyed my first ag cook. It ended up taking 11 hours.

    Pre-boil gravity 1.035

    Post-boil gravity 1.042

    Not sure why my pre-boil gravity was off but pleased I hit my post boil
    numbers.

    Carboys are now tucked away in my 60 degree fermenting chamber with SAF ALE
    US-05 American Ale (Chico Strain) yeast.



    Btw please excuse any spelling and grammar mistakes. I have a hard time
    typing paragraphs on a smart phone. If I get time, I will get on my computer
    and clean it up.

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  2. #2
    Bensiff

    Well-Known Member

    Posted Oct 31, 2012
    I've never had much an issue getting a March to prime, the few times it did was operator error, stuck sparge or something like that. Rest assured your 11 hour brew days will get shorter.
     
  3. #3
    moboy

    Well-Known Member

    Posted Oct 31, 2012
    I agree that the pumps worked great after I read the instructions.
     
  4. #4
    WhiteEagle1

    Well-Known Member

    Posted Oct 31, 2012
    Three hour mash & Three hour boil???? Think you may have misread the recipe on that one..... Sweet set up though!!
     
  5. #5
    moboy

    Well-Known Member

    Posted Oct 31, 2012
    Recipe Type: All Grain
    Yeast: Safale - 05
    Yeast Starter: Prior Slurry
    Batch Size (Gallons): 11.5
    Original Gravity: 1.040
    Final Gravity: 1.005
    IBU: 14.3
    Boiling Time (Minutes): 90
    Color: 2.9
    Primary Fermentation (# of Days & Temp): 14 Days at 68 Degrees
    Additional Fermentation: Kegged and chilled for 10 days

    Batch Size: 11.50 gal
    Boil Size: 14.26 gal
    Estimated OG: 1.040 SG
    Estimated Color: 2.9 SRM
    Estimated IBU: 14.3 IBU
    Brewhouse Efficiency: 75.0 %
    Boil Time: 90 Minutes

    Ingredients:
    ------------
    12.00 lb Pale Malt (2 Row) US (2.0 SRM)
    4.00 lb Corn, Flaked (1.3 SRM)
    1.00 lb Minute Rice (1.0 SRM)

    1.00 oz Williamette [5.20%] (60 min)
    1.00 oz Crystal [3.50%] (60 min)

    Link to recipe
    http://www.homebrewtalk.com/f62/cream-three-crops-cream-ale-66503/
     
  6. #6
    buttcord

    Well-Known Member

    Posted Oct 31, 2012
    90 minutes is 1.5 hours
     
  7. #7
    bknifefight

    Well-Known Member

    Posted Oct 31, 2012
    It says NO WHERE 3 hour mash or boil.

    90 minutes is not the same as 3 hours. Also, he doesnt specify the mash time. I did this recipe with 60 minute mash and 60 minute boil and it was fine.
     
  8. #8
    moboy

    Well-Known Member

    Posted Oct 31, 2012
    Yep, posted the the recipe to show my mistake. Somehow I entered 3 hrs into beersmith. I'm guessing I should through out the beer and start again.
     
  9. #9
    WhiteEagle1

    Well-Known Member

    Posted Oct 31, 2012
    Why throw it out?? That's alcohol abuse!!
     
  10. #10
    Assoc

    Active Member

    Posted Oct 31, 2012
    Will it still turn out ok? What are the ramifications for meshing and boiling 3 hrs?
     
  11. #11
    Yooper

    Ale's What Cures You! Staff Member  

    Posted Oct 31, 2012
    Well, the beer might be drier than planned, but it might come out great.

    If I had to do a three hour mash or boil, I'd quit brewing!

    I normally do a 60 minute mash and 60 minute boil, but sometimes with a lot of adjuncts I'll go up to 75 minutes in a mash and very rarely 90 minutes.

    I normally do a 60 minute boil also, except when using a ton of pilsner malt.
     
  12. #12
    edmanster

    Whats Under Your Kilt  

    Posted Oct 31, 2012
    mashed overnight with no problems and a 3hr boil just means you condenced your wort and prolly slightly darkend it a little... you didnt boil the hops that long , did you?
     
  13. #13
    Dan

    Well-Known Member  

    Posted Oct 31, 2012
    I'll be finding out part of the answer soon. I made this recipe and had just mashed in when I got called into work. Not much I could do, just left it. Came back around 5 hours later, heated sparge water and continued on. I suspect this one will turn out very dry and crisp which is a good thing for this beer.
     
  14. #14
    moboy

    Well-Known Member

    Posted Oct 31, 2012
    No I boiled the hops for 60 minutes.
     
  15. #15
    edmanster

    Whats Under Your Kilt  

    Posted Oct 31, 2012
    you still get 5-5.5gal to the primary? boil off is around 1gal a hour..
     
  16. #16
    moboy

    Well-Known Member

    Posted Oct 31, 2012
    I ended up with 11.5 gallons. I'll check my notes when I get home but I'm assuming beersmith calculated for the three hour boil.
     
  17. #17
    edmanster

    Whats Under Your Kilt  

    Posted Oct 31, 2012
    my bad!! thinking in my scale :)
     
  18. #18
    moboy

    Well-Known Member

    Posted Oct 31, 2012
    FYI,

    Mash in with 5.5 gallon
    Batch sparge with 2 steps (4 gallon, 8 gallon) of water.
     
  19. #19
    edmanster

    Whats Under Your Kilt  

    Posted Oct 31, 2012
    The only thing I would be concerned with now is over sparging wich could give a little bit of a astringent bite from tannin extraction.. you won't tell until after fermentation is complete but I bet it's just fine!!!
     
  20. #20
    moboy

    Well-Known Member

    Posted Nov 2, 2012
    Life is too short to drink bad beer or eat bad food.
     
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