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Things I learned going from Home to Nanobrewer...

Discussion in 'General Homebrew Discussion' started by Gordie, Sep 17, 2009.

 

  1. Gordie

    Well-Known Member

    Posted Jul 20, 2012
    Hey everybody. Great to see this thread is still alive and kicking. I've got a friend in the neighborhood that has just taken up home brewing and I'm having fun getting back to roots by helping him out with 5 gal partial mash batches. He's already telling me that his system is too small, "do I need a pump?" etc. Yes and yes. Good times and always makes me want to brew.

    Cheers!
     
  2. SC_Ryan

    Well-Known Member

    Posted Aug 27, 2012
    subscribe
     
  3. DrawTap88

    Well-Known Member

    Posted Aug 31, 2012
    Quick questions for you. Did the TTB or local authority make you get six inch concrete slabs below your nano sized fermenters? What size floor drains did they make you put in? Thanks for the kick butt thread.
     
  4. Gordie

    Well-Known Member

    Posted Aug 31, 2012
    Uh - no. The TTB doesn't do anything like that. They want your paperwork in order so that you pay taxes. That's about it. There's a section for disclosure of waste water that needs to be filled in, but the TTB doesn't really inspect anything other than forms.
     
  5. Phunhog

    Well-Known Member

    Posted Aug 31, 2012
    Kevin,
    I have been following your progress for the last few years since you were/are one of the original nanobreweries. What does the future hold for Healdsburg? Any plans to expand or are you pretty happy with where you are at? Cheers!!
     
  6. Gordie

    Well-Known Member

    Posted Aug 31, 2012
    Hey there. Cheers! Yup, I've got some plans for the brewery, but for the moment they're on the back burner because I'm busy with my other business. In the meantime, I'm focusing the brewery pn just making exceptional beer. Definitely have plans, though...
     
  7. osagedr

    Recovering from Sobriety  

    Posted Aug 31, 2012
    Wish I had never seen this thread...
     
  8. integra93ls

    Well-Known Member

    Posted Sep 1, 2012
    Awsome read. Can u give us some numbers as to what its costing per batch and profit?
     
  9. integra93ls

    Well-Known Member

    Posted Sep 1, 2012
    Also what r u using as far as: heat source, cooling
     
  10. wcrooker

    Well-Known Member

    Posted Sep 1, 2012
    I'm interested too about the heating. I'm in the process of starting up and I am just curious as to what you're using. I'm doing the 3 barrel set up from stout tanks and needed a heating source. Thanks for sharing too, this has been an inspiration for me.
     
  11. Phunhog

    Well-Known Member

    Posted Sep 1, 2012
    I believe he uses LP for heat...thought he made mention of having to refill tanks.
     
  12. Gordie

    Well-Known Member

    Posted Sep 5, 2012
    Hey everyone. For heat I'd been using propane, but recently had an adjustable tankless water heater installed (which I hacked to put out heat up to 180 deg if I want) so my propane use is way way down. In terms of costs per bbl for materials and propane and whatnot is about $85 per bbl. I, and most folks, sell a 5g keg for an average of $65, which brings gross revenue to $390 per bbl. Gross profit is $305 and gross margin for this example is 78%, and is generally around 70% - 80% depending on the brew.
     
  13. bellmtbbq

    Well-Known Member

    Posted Sep 6, 2012
    Awesome! Just read this whole thread. Sounds like you have the perfect situation for a nano regarding location, zoning, kegging, etc. That sounds like a pretty solid profit margin, I'm surprised you can charge $65 for a 5 gallon keg when I have read many bars won't deal with you if you sell 1/2 bbl kegs for over $125. Distributors makes it even worse, I guess. But cheers to you and what a success story!
     
  14. grimstuff

    Well-Known Member

    Posted Oct 10, 2012
    sorry, didn't read the entire thread, but do you sell any bottles anywhere? I know Big John's carries a lot of local brews, but last time I was there I hadn't heard of your operation so didn't look for it...
     
  15. ktraver97ss

    Well-Known Member

    Posted Oct 10, 2012
    Subscribed. Congratulations on your successes! I turned my hobby of detailing cars into a business 5 years ago and am considering selling it and starting a nano. We already brew 30 gallons, just need to get a place and fermentors really. Thanks for the inspiration!
     
  16. Gordie

    Well-Known Member

    Posted Oct 11, 2012
    Nope - not bottling. Draft only. Watch for it at Healdsburg Bar & Grill, Bergamot Alley, Sprenger's, Heritage Public House, Beer Revolution and a few other venues...
     
  17. balto charlie

    Well-Known Member  

    Posted Dec 26, 2012
    Well done man!! Wasn't thinking about Nano-brewing but you do make it look interesting.
    Maryland has just passed laws where a farm can be treated like a winery if they grow part of the components of the beer on site. It is called the Maryland On Farm Brewery Law. Here's a link
    http://articles.baltimoresun.com/20..._craft-beer-industry-pale-ale-beer-production

    It will be interesting to see if they produce good beers. Growing hops is way different from brewing good beer. It is learning the brewing trade in reverse. At least it gives another venue for Nano-brewers to sell their wares. Perhaps it is time to buy a small farm in Maryland and start brewing. I wondered if they would consider my fridge a yeast farm:)
     
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  18. mlsuggs

    Supporting Member  

    Posted Dec 31, 2012
    It's something I'm contemplating for a few years down the line... I got the farm this summer, and I've got some barley planted (very small test plots). I'll get my hops in the ground come spring. I'm deciding whether to put in another well for my brewing, or rely on rainwater catchment (leaning towards the latter). And I've thought about trying to "capture" a yeast strain locally.

    I figure that even if I don't eventually go pro, it'll be interesting to brew something from completely "home-grown" ingredients... :drunk:

    Cheers!

    --Misha
     
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  19. Washroom_Attendant

    Member

    Posted Oct 19, 2014
    Hey Gordie,

    Very interesting read two years ago. How about an update? How are you doing?

    Thanks
     
  20. tmccoy

    Member

    Posted Oct 20, 2014
    Gordie,

    Going to repeat what most people have said on the thread, very inspiring as someone who wants to do something like this at some point. Also, I go up to Windsor a couple times a month for work. Do you have an updated list of places where I can get your beer? I know it's been a few years.
     
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