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Surly Bender Clone?

Discussion in 'Recipes/Ingredients' started by boodyrischous, May 28, 2009.

 

  1. #1
    boodyrischous

    Well-Known Member

    Posted May 28, 2009
    Anyone have a good recipe for this?

    Thanks!
     
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    boodyrischous

    Well-Known Member

    Posted May 29, 2009
    Anybody?

    <crickets>
     
  3. #3
    toastermm

    Well-Known Member  

    Posted Jan 7, 2010
    Lately, I have been trying my hardest to come up with a good brown. I have heard great great and wonderous things about this surly bender or surly coffee bender. Here is what the website lists about the bender:

    And the Coffee Bender:
    I would be very interested in a clone as well.
     
  4. #4
    Martin2D

    Well-Known Member

    Posted Jan 7, 2010
    Coffee Bender is ridiculously good. Would love to see some attempts for this beer as I made a coffee Indian Brown Ale, which was ridiculously good! Problem is its nowhere near as good as the subtlety of Coffee Bender.
     
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    jdauria

    Supporting Member  

    Posted May 10, 2012
    Not sure if there are any legal issues in regards to posting a recipe from a company's kit, so will not post the recipe I have in BeerSmith. But if you go to the Northern Brewer website and select the Surly Bender (partial mash or All-Gran) kit, then click on "additional information", it opens a PDF of the recipe.

    Will say I did make the partial mash version and it was delicious. Surly beers are not available in MA, but based on the description of the beer on their website, I was getting a lot of the same flavor profiles. Even after 8 months in the bottle, I even got a 3rd place finish in my club's Brown Ale competition.
     
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    bobbrews

    Well-Known Member

    Posted May 10, 2012
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    MNDan

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    Posted May 10, 2012
    The Northern Brewer recipe is the actual recipe.
     
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    bobbrews

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    Posted May 10, 2012
    I'm trying to get to the bottom of this because I don't feel it is accurate...

    NB Version: http://hopville.com/recipe/1359371/american-brown-ale-recipes/surly-bender-version-1
    Tweaked Version: http://hopville.com/recipe/1359212/american-brown-ale-recipes/surly-bender-version-2

    Northern Brewer's all-grain version, under a 60 minute, 6 gallon full volume boil / 5 gallon batch yields less than 30 SRM and off whack OG/FG/ABV. The NB recipe also neglects to include dark crystal. And even with some of the darker English equivalents from Muntons and Crisp, the SRM still hovers around 30-ish. Perhaps they also add some real dark chocolate as well... or just more chocolate malt?

    From Surly's website:

    "Here's what happens when substance meets smooth. This oatmeal brown ale defies traditional categories. Bender begins crisp and lightly hoppy, complemented by the velvety sleekness oats deliver. Belgian and British malts usher in cascades of cocoa, coffee, caramel and hints of vanilla and cream. An easy-drinking ale with many layers of satisfaction."

    STYLE: American Brown Ale
    MALT: Pale Ale, Aromatic, Medium Crystal, Dark Crystal, Oats and Chocolate
    HOPS: Columbus, Willamette
    YEAST: English Ale

    OG: 14º Plato
    ABV: 5.5%
    COLOR: 45 SRM
    IBU: 45

    It appears these stats change quite a bit each year.
     
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    jdauria

    Supporting Member  

    Posted May 11, 2012
    Didn't realize when I responded to this thread that the last post was 2 years old! Oops!

    The only other thing I can say on the Northern Brewer recipe is that Surly worked with them to create the "clone" recipe, so it's not a guess by Northern Brewer. But as for the numbers not matching exactly the numbers of the real Surly Bender, I could see that. I could see the brewery not wanting to give their full recipe out, so instead they created a clone recipe that comes close to the flavor.

    Looking at my numbers in Beersmith, while I did the partial mash version only, my IBU's were 43.5 and my ABV was 5.8...so not that far off from the Surly numbers on their site.
     
  10. #10
    wetmk

    Member

    Posted Sep 11, 2012
    Made the NB partial mash kit in the spring; third batch of a long brew day. So of course I screwed up. Ten minutes after putting in the 60 minute hop addition I noticed some hops measured out on the counter. I thought,"S#$%, I forgot to put in the hops." So I dumped them into the boil. Of course it was the 2.5 oz end of boil addition. Anyway, the final product was outstanding. It was so good that when I make the kit again I will have a hard time not throwing those hops in early again.
    Another long day miss: I never took OG.
     
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