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Stc-1000+

Discussion in 'Fermenters' started by alphaomega, Mar 9, 2014.

 

  1. moad

    Active Member

    Posted Mar 5, 2015
    Hi from Australia, thanks to everyone contributing to the project and this forum in general. I normally visit aussiehomebrewer.com which I believe is owned by Austin now as well.

    Anyway...

    I accidentally ordered 110v units instead of the 220 required in Australia.

    I have flashed them with 1000p however they are useless to me. I will put them on ebay but thought I would check here if anyone is interested first.

    PM me if you like...

    Sorry if this isn't the appropriate section.

    edit: just found this thread... http://www.homebrewtalk.com/f258/stc-100-220v-110v-easy-fix-308389/

    As you were... :)
     
  2. brewguyver

    Member  

    Posted Mar 5, 2015

    I appreciate the vote of confidence, but i wrongly assumed (based on an internet video or two) that the hot from the power supply was linked to the hots for heating and cooling through the board itself (my other controller works that way). Apparently that is not the case, which means no puff of smoke - there was no power to those terminals to create an issue.

    I'll fix the wiring in the next week or so and will send an update picture with my (hopefully) working controller.
     
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  3. banesong

    Middle Ground Brewing Company  

    Posted Mar 11, 2015
    Forgive me, but I seem to remember reading somewhere about a setting that would allow us to shut the heat/cool off early, before we hit the target temperature. My freezer cools so quickly that it shoots 2+ degrees below the target. Kinda frustrating.
     
  4. atoughram

    Well-Known Member

    Posted Mar 11, 2015
    Thanks - I ordered a few more too as spares.
     
  5. smithabusa

    Well-Known Member

    Posted Mar 11, 2015
    If you add a second temp sensor you can use HY2 as a way to shut off the heating or cooling before target temp is reached.

    On alpha's github he has the directions posted on how to add the 10K resistor, 3 block terminal etc.

    If you need anything in pre-assembled fashion i have dual sensor assembled (in enclosures etc) controllers.
     
  6. banesong

    Middle Ground Brewing Company  

    Posted Mar 12, 2015
    Hrm... okay. I will play with larger hysterysis levels with the primary sensor. I am not quite to the point of adding a second sensor.
     
  7. alphaomega

    Well-Known Member

    Posted Mar 12, 2015
    @banesong, there are a number of things you can experiment with. Probe placement, insulation for the probe. You could try using a smaller hysteresis setting, have the setpoint be a little bit above the desired temperature and rely on compressor delay instead to limit cycling.
    Where is your probe located? Taped to the side of the FV?
     
  8. druido

    New Member

    Posted Mar 13, 2015
    working on it :)
     
  9. greyghost

    Well-Known Member

    Posted Mar 14, 2015
    Good then you can come over and reprogram mine:D
     
  10. atoughram

    Well-Known Member

    Posted Mar 14, 2015
    Yes - you're right - before you leave for the summer...

    You going to Ben's on the 28th?
     
  11. greyghost

    Well-Known Member

    Posted Mar 16, 2015
    Nope to far to go in a day. that and it's the wifes BD. A happy wife is a happy life :ban:
     
  12. stoneBriar

    Well-Known Member

    Posted Mar 17, 2015
    Thought you guys might be interested in this. I used an EL-USB-1 submerged in the beer, a EL-USB-2 sitting next to the fermenter, and the probe from the STC1000+ taped to the side of the better bottle with reflectix and a rag over the end of the probe to insulate from the ambient air. I'm going to see if putting a computer fan in the minifridge helps with controlling the overcooling/heating cycle that seems to be happening. Maybe I need to play with my hy and hd setting also.


    ps The loggers started at noon on brew day and I didn't get wort into the fermenter until about 3pm. Wort went in at 56°F at which point I started the temp profile.

    lager minifridg.png
     
  13. bruhops

    Active Member

    Posted Mar 17, 2015
    Does anyone know what the relay type is for the stc1000 I assume they are electromechanical vs solid state .
     
  14. alphaomega

    Well-Known Member

    Posted Mar 17, 2015
    The ones i've seen are called JCQ 3FF.
    Yes. Electromechanical.
     
  15. bruhops

    Active Member

    Posted Mar 17, 2015
    Does that type of relay factor well with very acute hysterisis. Typicaly they run a 10 second cycle on/off included.any idea what the life expectancy for this application.I know it is relative to the heat efficiency just wondering. How often would the relay hit in tight control. I assume it is a DPST type.
     
  16. Bigdaddyale

    Well-Known Member

  17. bruhops

    Active Member

    Posted Mar 17, 2015
    thanks
     
  18. hboiardt

    Active Member

    Posted Mar 17, 2015
  19. smithabusa

    Well-Known Member

    Posted Mar 17, 2015
    I have them Already flashed with 1.07 if interested
     
  20. doug293cz

    BIABer, Beer Math Nerd, ePanel Designer, Pilot Staff Member  

    Posted Mar 18, 2015
    Just for information, "FR-4" is a generic printed circuit board material type (I used to work in the industry) it's not the model number. FR-4 stands for Flame Retardant class/type 4.

    Brew on :mug:
     
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  21. smithabusa

    Well-Known Member

    Posted Mar 22, 2015
    @fusa I received your pro mini today, there were a couple of wires mixed around and pin 9 wasn't being used, pin 6 was. I have it aced up and just flashed one of my controllers with it to verify it's working. Will get it sent back to you Monday.

    Greg
     
  22. fusa

    Senior Member  

    Posted Mar 22, 2015
    Thanks for you help, never thought to check if I had switched pin 6 and 9.
     
  23. Olav

    New Member

    Posted Mar 22, 2015
    Hi, Is it possible to flash this unit with Board WK-02-k?
     
  24. hboiardt

    Active Member

    Posted Mar 22, 2015
    Was anyone ever able to flash this particular board?
     
  25. brewguyver

    Member  

    Posted Mar 25, 2015
    Followed ya'lls directions, fixed the wiring, and *thought* it still didn't work. Turns out I shouldn't try and troubleshoot late at night when I have to travel the next morning.

    I realized on the plane I was checking voltage across the two hot pins, which would *never* give me a result. The SWMBO was nice enough to test it for me using a lamp and voila - we're in business.

    Thanks for the wiring diagram - it made getting this working much, much easier.
     
  26. wizbrewery

    Member

    Posted Mar 29, 2015
    Great hack alpha, would love to try out your firmware on my next brew, if only I could get hold of the right stc-1000 :confused:
     
  27. smithabusa

    Well-Known Member

    Posted Mar 29, 2015
    A few posts up a few guys have had luck with this ebay seller

    http://m.ebay.com/itm/261660479398?_mwBanner=1

    I'm unfortunately out of loose controllers for diy kits, waiting on another shipment.

    But do have lots of assembled units on the shelf if you were looking for one
     
  28. wizbrewery

    Member

    Posted Mar 30, 2015
    thanks, I'm in the uk so will look for a suplier here
     
  29. rosenhop

    Member

    Posted Mar 30, 2015
    Does anyone know if an RTD sensor like this will work with the STC-1000?
     
  30. Ben58

    Well-Known Member

    Posted Mar 30, 2015
    Unfortunately, no. The temperature tables are written for NTC type units, as well as the components.
     
  31. DrunkleJon

    Objects in mirror are closer than they appear  

    Posted Mar 30, 2015
    EDIT: The two I had have been claimed.

    Not trying to get into resales or anything but if someone needs to find an unflashed version 1.0 I have a spare confirmed one (maybe two) I could part with for cost and shipping. Still in box and unused. Only opened to confirm they are flashable.
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    Board version
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    Programming pads
     
    Last edited: Apr 6, 2015
  32. jleiii

    Well-Known Member

    Posted Mar 31, 2015
    I'm interested, sending PM.
     
  33. dirkomatic

    Well-Known Member

    Posted Apr 1, 2015
    I have one I am interested in selling, too. I'll just never get around to getting anything to flash it with.
     
  34. smithabusa

    Well-Known Member

    Posted Apr 1, 2015
    If you cover shipping I'll flash it for you just send it over
     
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  35. mutterback

    Member

    Posted Apr 6, 2015
    I apparently ordered 3 of the wrong STC-1000 boards. Can anyone tell me how to know I'm getting the correct one please? I haven't seen anywhere where any ebay sellers show what board version they're selling.
    Thanks
     
  36. barrooze

    Well-Known Member

    Posted Apr 6, 2015
    You order from smithabusa.
     
  37. smithabusa

    Well-Known Member

    Posted Apr 6, 2015
    Thanks! I'm currently out, but have 100 on the way very soon
     
  38. pinkfloyd4ever

    Well-Known Member

    Posted Apr 6, 2015
  39. alphaomega

    Well-Known Member

    Posted Apr 6, 2015
    I've done some cleaning up and renamed usermanual.md to README.md, so github automatically will show it when browsing the source tree.
    The usermanual can be found here.
     
  40. pinkfloyd4ever

    Well-Known Member

    Posted Apr 6, 2015
    Cool thanks Alpha. And thanks again to you, Greg, and anyone else who has worked on this project :mug:
     
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