Scaling 15 bbl to 5 gallon | HomeBrewTalk.com - Beer, Wine, Mead, & Cider Brewing Discussion Community.

Homebrew Talk

Help Support Homebrew Talk by donating:

  1. Dismiss Notice
  2. We have a new forum and it needs your help! Homebrewing Deals is a forum to post whatever deals and specials you find that other homebrewers might value! Includes coupon layering, Craigslist finds, eBay finds, Amazon specials, etc.
    Dismiss Notice

Scaling 15 bbl to 5 gallon

Discussion in 'All Grain & Partial Mash Brewing' started by calebgk, Sep 9, 2012.

 

  1. #1
    calebgk

    Wishy-washy

    Posted Sep 9, 2012
    I toured the Cape Cod Brewery in the summer. I fell in love with their IPA, and had a good chat with one of the brewers. Super friendly guys who still homebrew and sell homebrew supplies out of the brewery.

    So, I asked if I could have the grain bill for their IPA. And the guy printed off one of their brew sheets for me. So, I want to duplicate this recipe, but am not sure about scaling it.

    825# Pale 2-row
    65# Wheat malt
    55# Crystal 45

    8.2# Chinook @ 60
    4.1# Cascade @ 30
    1.5# Cascade @ 0
    3.9# Willamtette @ 0

    Total liquor volume = 651 Gallons
    US-04 yeast

    I don't know their equipment/evaporation loses.

    So, how would I scale this recipe? I've already mathed the grain down, but how would I scale the hops to fit the profile?
     
    azscoob likes this.
  2. #2
    ReverseApacheMaster

    Banned

    Posted Sep 9, 2012
    The aroma hops at 0 can probably be scaled linearly but for the 60 and 30 minute additions you should look at the IBUs in that beer that adjust to fit the IBUs rather than making a linear scale. Keep the ratio between 60 and 30 minutes the same but you will probably need more hops because you get less utilization on a 5 gallon boil than a 15bbl boil. It's also helpful to know what their efficiency is because you might need to adjust that as well.
     
    azscoob likes this.
  3. #3
    azscoob

    Brewpub coming soon!

    Posted Sep 9, 2012
    Interesting to hear how this turns out. Scaling up to commercial volumes, and scaling down to home brewer volume can be challenging to do and keep the flavor the same
     
  4. #4
    SS_Brewing_Co

    Well-Known Member

    Posted Sep 9, 2012
    On the same note.....

    Can you scale 5g to 20g linear across the board? Grains and hops?
     
  5. #5
    azscoob

    Brewpub coming soon!

    Posted Sep 9, 2012
    Pretty much yes, might have to adjust hops to keep the IBU the same.
     
  6. #6
    SS_Brewing_Co

    Well-Known Member

    Posted Sep 9, 2012
    I just did my first 20g on my new system and it's one of my old recipes. I scaled it straight across and it was still good just not the same. I bet you're right and I just need to tweak the hops a bit.
     
  7. #7
    Maxkling

    Well-Known Member

    Posted Sep 9, 2012
    Do you think you can come up with an estimation on the width of their boil kettle?
     
  8. #8
    calebgk

    Wishy-washy

    Posted Sep 9, 2012
    Not sure about boil kettle size. It was 15bbl capacity. I maybe about 8 feet across.
     
  9. #9
    Tim27

    Well-Known Member

    Posted Sep 20, 2012
    Is their boil kettle 15 bbls? How much wort do they get into the fermentor?
     
  10. #10
    GilSwillBasementBrews

    Well-Known Member  

    Posted Sep 20, 2012
    I scaled this using the volumes and ingredients entered into beer alchemy and then changed volume for a 5 gallon batch and this is what it converted it to.


    Gravity Before Boil: 1.051 SG (13.4 Brix)
    Original Gravity: 1.060 SG (15.7 Brix)
    Final Gravity: 1.016 SG (8.6 Brix)


    Volume Before Boil: 6.75 US gals
    Volume After Boil: 5.75 US gals
    Volume Transferred: 5.50 US gals
    Water Added To Dilute: 0.0 qts
    Volume At Pitching: 5.50 US gals
    Volume Of Finished Beer: 5.00 US gals

    Total Water Required: 8.06 US gals
    Preparation
    If using a yeast starter prepare one a couple of days in advance.

    If necessary crush the grains.

    Heat 3.42 US gals of water to 170 F.

    Mashing
    Dough in the following fermentable ingredients.

    9lb 9oz of US 2-Row Malt
    12.06 oz of US White Wheat Malt
    10.20 oz of Belgian Cara 45 Malt
    Mash pH should be 5.2.

    Allow the temperature to stabilize at 151 F. Allow to rest at this temperature for 60 minutes.

    Raise the temperature to 171 F over 10 minutes and mash out.

    Add 1.26 US gals of water at 171 F, mix and run off.

    Add a further 3.38 US gals of water at 171 F and mix.

    Run off to collect a total of 6.75 US gals of wort.

    Boiling
    Bring the wort to the boil.

    Add the following hops at the times given.

    1.60 oz of US Chinook (60 Min From End)
    0.80 oz of US Cascade (30 Min From End)

    Boil the wort for a total of 60 minutes.

    At 'turn off' add the following hops.

    0.76 oz of US Willamette
    0.29 oz of US Cascade


    Chill the wort to the appropriate pitching temperature and rack the wort to your fermenter.

    Fermentation
    The desired volume at pitching is 5.50 US gals.

    Pitch 1 pack(s) of DCL S-04-SafAle and ferment at 64 F.

    If using a secondary, transfer when appropriate.
     
  11. #11
    calebgk

    Wishy-washy

    Posted Sep 20, 2012
    That looks awesome! This will probably be my next brew. Thanks!
     
  12. #12
    GilSwillBasementBrews

    Well-Known Member  

    Posted Sep 20, 2012
    No problem looked good to me too
     
Draft saved Draft deleted

Share This Page

Group Builder