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Ready for All Grain. Need Advice on Equipment Build

Discussion in 'All Grain & Partial Mash Brewing' started by Budzien, Feb 16, 2012.

 

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    Budzien

    Well-Known Member

    Posted Feb 16, 2012
    I'm ready to start all grain brewing. I have decided I would like to use Igloo style water coolers for my mash tun and sparge tank. What i don't know is if I need a five gallon or a ten gallon cooler. I will only be brewing 5 gallons at a time, so... Also, some of you guys have really cool fly sparging setups. Any DIY help on building a really good fly sparge arm setup that would work off of gravity fed water?
     
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    revolutioned

    Active Member

    Posted Feb 16, 2012
    10 gallon, so you can upgrade.
     
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    revolutioned

    Active Member

    Posted Feb 16, 2012
    Oh yes, I forgot. Spend your money on something else other than a sparge arm. Your hose and some tin foil is all you need.
     
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    Budzien

    Well-Known Member

    Posted Feb 16, 2012
    Hose and tin foil?
     
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    Rushis

    Well-Known Member

    Posted Feb 16, 2012
    Set a silicon hose on top of the grain bed and maintain 1" of sparge water above the grain. No need for a sparge arm. I assume the tin foil referenced above helps avoid disturbing the grainbed, many people use stainless steel pet food bowls, milk jugs, old plastic fermenter lids, etc for that purpose.
     
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    phenry

    Well-Known Member

    Posted Feb 16, 2012
    Definitely opt for a 10 gallon. A 5 gallon MLT will limit the amount of grain you can mash for higher gravity batches.
     
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    rossi46

    Senior Member

    Posted Feb 17, 2012
    I have the 5 gallon igloo mlt and hlt from homebrewstuff.com. I don't fly sparge any more, I prefer batch sparging. But it is a decent set up for the money. I still use the mlt and can get 14lbs of grain in there.
     
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    wailingguitar

    Well-Known Member

    Posted Feb 17, 2012
    I don't even do the hose sparging thing... Common practice is to keep a steady amount of water above the grain bed. That really isn't necessary. Once you have established a certain amount of water above it, get the rest in as quickly as possible without serious disruption. Low stress, simple and it does the job. I do my vorlauf, start running to kettle, take sparge water by the pitcher and pour it over a wooden spoon. A leisurely 10 minutes and it's all in, then it does it's thing for the next 50 minutes of the runoff. The insulation of the cooler coupled with the thermal mass keeps the temp where it should be. I used the same basic process for years in 4 commercial breweries (learned it at Bell's 20 something years ago) it just works :)
     
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    DHUKILL

    Active Member

    Posted Feb 17, 2012
    + 1 on the 10 gal MLT and the 5 gal HLT. You will max out a 5 gal MLT real fast. Pick up a digital thermometer so you can closely watch temps and a digital timer and scales to weigh hops and grains. You will eventually need a grain mill to get good efficiencies. Until then see if your grain source can double grind/crush your grains for you. I would go with dry yeast until you can get a stir plate, then always prepare starters. Very important as well to be able to control ferm temps closely. Most of these things aren't exclusive to AG but come when your techniques get more advanced and you hone your skills. +1 also on the no need for an elaborate spare system.
    Good luck!
     
  10. #10
    Budzien

    Well-Known Member

    Posted Feb 17, 2012
    Thank all of you very much. I think I will go with the 10 gallon and skip the sparge system. Any other advice is always appreciated.

    Prosit!
     
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    mjohnson

    Well-Known Member

    Posted Feb 18, 2012
    When converting the cooler, consider a bulkhead kit from one of the online retailers (like norther brewer). You can do it yourself, but some of the parts are a stinker to find locally. easier to just use the kit. Cost difference is negligible. Oh, and if you're doing the braid type, make sure the braid you get is actually stainless steel. The first one I bought was actually a plastic. Felt kinda dumb when I got home.

    Lastly, realize that making wort is really easy. Fermentation is where the beer is made. If you're going to be spending money, spend money on things that help fermentation before everything else.
     
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