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Ranger clone help

Discussion in 'General Homebrew Discussion' started by Staghead556, Nov 13, 2011.

 

  1. #1
    Staghead556

    Active Member

    Posted Nov 13, 2011
    So i brewed a clone for ranger ipa two weeks ago using WLP051... fermentation was still going strong after two weeks! I paniced and racked it to a secondary yesterday..not thinking of taking a reading beforehand (i know) i took one after..still said 1.040..again today same thing..what should i do? Thats waay to high correct? Should i throw more yeast at it??
     
  2. #2
    Darwin18

    Well-Known Member

    Posted Nov 13, 2011
    Why didn't you just let it ferment in the primary until it was done? If you left in primary for 3-4 weeks it would fermented cleanly and cleared substantially.
     
  3. #3
    blizzard

    Well-Known Member  

    Posted Nov 13, 2011
    Give it a swirl and check it tomorrow. If there is no change then add more yeast.
     
  4. #4
    Staghead556

    Active Member

    Posted Nov 13, 2011
    Because im stupid? Lol
     
  5. #5
    Staghead556

    Active Member

    Posted Nov 15, 2011
    just took a reading..still around 1.040 but i tasted it and it doesnt taste bad..tastes pretty damn good..do i dare pitch more yeast even tho i have already dryhopped it??!
     
  6. #6
    robbiex0r

    Well-Known Member

    Posted Nov 15, 2011
    Yes, you can't let it finish at 1.040.
     
  7. #7
    davefleck

    Well-Known Member

    Posted Nov 15, 2011
    What temp is it at? Did you cold crash before transferring? If not, you'd have more yeast in suspension then you'd be repitching.

    Give it a few days before trying to 'fix' it.
     
  8. #8
    Staghead556

    Active Member

    Posted Nov 16, 2011
    It has been at a steady 67-68 the entire time..never cold crashed it..just racked it to secondary and dry hopped like an ansy 10 year with zero patience..i was fixn to toss in a single packey of safale us 05 tonight and see what happens..maybe somthin..maybe nothin
     
  9. #9
    coastwx

    Well-Known Member

    Posted Nov 16, 2011
    Good luck. I did something similar with an IPA. It visibly fermented for more than 3 weeks, so figured it was done as I've had very few beers finish higher than 1.015 or so. Racked to a bottling bucket and was about to bottle when I thought, maybe I should check the gravity. It was 1.030. I let it go for a few more weeks, but never got below 1.025. It's in a keg now. Malty sweet for sure, but not too bad. My neighbor actually loved it this weekend.
     
  10. #10
    Staghead556

    Active Member

    Posted Nov 16, 2011
    Pitched more yeast ...nothing happend..oh well..live and learn
     
  11. #11
    By-Tor

    Well-Known Member

    Posted Nov 16, 2011
    Please let us know what happens.I'm battling with an imperial stout that wont get below 1.039. Don't know wether i should pitch more yeast or not.
     
  12. #12
    davefleck

    Well-Known Member

    Posted Nov 17, 2011
    Seriously, step away from the carboy. Don't touch it for a week.
     
  13. #13
    Staghead556

    Active Member

    Posted Nov 17, 2011
    Will do..i said f it and cold crashed already..its been 3 weeks since i brewed it..kegging tonight when i get home..considering i never took an original reading 1.040 might be as low as it will get..maybe i didnt boil long enough..results to follow
     
  14. #14
    android

    Well-Known Member

    Posted Nov 17, 2011
    chalk this one up to a learning experience. what was the OG? couldn't have been more than 1.05*, there isn't going to be much alcohol in the beer... not that we care about that, right? ;)

    next time, just let it ferment out in the primary fermenter and don't even look at it for 2 weeks, then you can start taking gravities, etc.

    did you make a starter? consider that next time if not.
     
  15. #15
    Staghead556

    Active Member

    Posted Nov 17, 2011
    its kegged and its STRONG..only came out with about 4 gallons..id ballpark it somewhere in the 9-10% range..it frightens me.
     
  16. #16
    Walker

    I use secondaries. :p  

    Posted Nov 17, 2011
    What ate you taking gravity readings with? Hydro or refract?
     
  17. #17
    Zorin

    Well-Known Member  

    Posted Nov 17, 2011
    I had the same problem with a Bock, the damn thing would not hit the high side of FG at1.018. I ended up bottling the batch at 1.021 and it turned out tasting just as it was suppose to. Your high gravity is going to require you to pitch more yeast, since the initial pitch of yeast was not sufficent to get to your FG. Good Luck
     
  18. #18
    Staghead556

    Active Member

    Posted Nov 18, 2011
    refractometer.
     
  19. #19
    Walker

    I use secondaries. :p  

    Posted Nov 18, 2011
    Are you using the formulas to calculate FG? You cannot use a refractometer reading directly for FG.
     
  20. #20
    Staghead556

    Active Member

    Posted Nov 18, 2011
    was not aware of that..i am nowhere close to an expert..and no calculations just ballparking it givin the info from beersmith
     
  21. #21
    Walker

    I use secondaries. :p  

    Posted Nov 18, 2011
    Alcohol throws off the refractometer so once fermentation starts the reading needs to be adjusted. You can only do the adjustment if you know the OG.

    I asked this because a straight refract reading on a finished average strength beer... without the correction... looks a lot like 1.030 give or take a little.

    Search google for " adjusting refractometer for FG " and you will find conversion tools.

    My guess is that you are damn near your target.
     
  22. #22
    Walker

    I use secondaries. :p  

    Posted Nov 18, 2011
  23. #23
    Staghead556

    Active Member

    Posted Nov 18, 2011
    i appreciate the point in the right direction man.however my main problem is i never took an og reading(kicking myself now)
     
  24. #24
    Walker

    I use secondaries. :p  

    Posted Nov 18, 2011
    well.... what was the recipe? You can probably get a damn good estimate of the OG, right?
     
  25. #25
    Staghead556

    Active Member

    Posted Nov 18, 2011
    beersmith estimate is 1.067
    11.5 #s two row
    .25 #s crystal 120
    hops
    then 2#s sugar at 15mins
    wlp051 liquid yeast
     
  26. #26
    Brewham

    Well-Known Member

    Posted Nov 18, 2011
    Use a hydrometer to measure gravity now. It really doesn't matter where you started, it the FG is down in the 1.010 range, you are done! Use the Beersmith estimate of OG to calculate your estimate of alcohol - but who cares? It is what it is and it will be fine.
     
  27. #27
    Staghead556

    Active Member

    Posted Nov 18, 2011
    unfortunately i dont have one.. all i have is the refrac and its around 1.040..you are correct tho..guess tmmrw when i sit down with a few pint ill find out just what its packing
     
  28. #28
    Walker

    I use secondaries. :p  

    Posted Nov 18, 2011
    ok. 1.067 would be 16.2 Brix for your OG.

    You said you think it is at 1.040, so I assume you got a refract reading of 9.8. That 9.8 would be 1.040 if it were an OG reading, but the alcohol messes it up.

    Using that calculator and putting in 16.2 as the initial reading and 9.8 as the current reading....

    it calculates a FG of 1.022, which is a little high, but is probably much more accurate than 1.040
     
  29. #29
    Staghead556

    Active Member

    Posted Nov 18, 2011
    your the man..many thanks
     
  30. #30
    Walker

    I use secondaries. :p  

    Posted Nov 18, 2011
    no prob.

    *THIS* is the real piece of good advice, especially if you keg your beer. I don't ever check FG. Have not done that since i-don't-know-when. I check OG to make sure my mash efficiency hasn't gone all wonky, and then I just let the sh!t sit for a month, keg it, and drink it.

    It is what it is.
     
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