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Post your infection

Discussion in 'Beginners Beer Brewing Forum' started by jcarson83, Jul 5, 2008.

 

  1. brewprint

    Well-Known Member

    Posted Nov 22, 2014
    What about 2137?
     
  2. unionrdr

    Homebrewer, author & air gun shooter  

    Posted Nov 22, 2014
    Looks like a lacto infection infected the yeast raft floaters, thus the color of tan rather than the usual white.
     
  3. brewprint

    Well-Known Member

    Posted Nov 22, 2014
    That is basically what I had last night transferred into the secondary and it looks pretty good today. Do you think that I will have an issue?
     
  4. unionrdr

    Homebrewer, author & air gun shooter  

    Posted Nov 22, 2014
    Maybe. Infections show up on the surface, but are all through the beer. Racking from under the part you see on top & bottling seems to minimize the effects in my opinion.
     
  5. brewprint

    Well-Known Member

    Posted Nov 22, 2014
    I probably should have tasted it but it had no bad odor at all
     
  6. unionrdr

    Homebrewer, author & air gun shooter  

    Posted Nov 22, 2014
    Might be OK in that case. I can usually smell it before tasting it myself.
     
  7. huskrfj

    Active Member

    Posted Nov 23, 2014
    But what would be causing the astringency?
     
  8. unionrdr

    Homebrewer, author & air gun shooter  

    Posted Nov 23, 2014
    Astringency can come from high PH of the mash, or tannins from the grain husks from over-sparging or perhaps squeezing the grain bag too much.
     
  9. Damoxemus

    Well-Known Member

    Posted Nov 24, 2014
    Thank you for the feedback guys. I haven't really gotten this type of smell before, but I've
    never done this high a gravity beer either.

    I'll just RDWHAHB and let ya know how it goes in a few weeks.
     
  10. landonrone

    Well-Known Member

    Posted Nov 26, 2014
  11. BGBC

    Well-Known Member

    Posted Nov 26, 2014

    Looks fine.

    Ambitious first beer though.
     
  12. landonrone

    Well-Known Member

    Posted Nov 27, 2014
    Thank you. I hope so- I'll know in about a month, I suppose. The smell is just a bit much. I have had a decent background with chemistry lab work so I may have gotten over confident on the first beer.
     
  13. unionrdr

    Homebrewer, author & air gun shooter  

    Posted Nov 27, 2014
    Well, brewing is part science/chemistry. But the rest is art. Keep trying & learning. We all go through it, so there's nothing left to it but to do it.:mug:
     
  14. DrunkleJon

    Objects in mirror are closer than they appear  

    Posted Nov 28, 2014
    Looks like you were infected with the homebrew bug. And maybe some hop cones. Hope it turns out well. good beer can make some godawful smells when the yeast is doing its thing.
     
  15. inkman15

    Well-Known Member

    Posted Nov 28, 2014
  16. unionrdr

    Homebrewer, author & air gun shooter  

    Posted Nov 28, 2014
    The lighter colored broken ice pack stuff might be the start of something?
     
  17. inkman15

    Well-Known Member

    Posted Nov 28, 2014
    Really hope not. I'll let it ride another week and see if it changes. If it doesn't get worse, I'm thinking it'll be fine


    Sent from my iPhone using Home Brew
     
  18. landonrone

    Well-Known Member

    Posted Nov 29, 2014
    So I say and watched that robust porter for about 20 minutes one day while it formed enough CO2 to blow one bubble out of the airlock. So I'm guessing that adding that coconut could have potentially supplied some sugar to let that yeast start eating again.

    Side note, I've had it cold crashing at ~35 degrees F since it went in secondary.

    I'm hoping that wild smell it's lettin off is the combo of really high ABV and the cascade hops doing their thing on top.
     
  19. tugbucket

    Well-Known Member

    Posted Nov 30, 2014
    Went to keg the hibiscus saison and found this. Those are bubbles. No green or white mold. Doesn't exactly smell off. Wife says its a little bitter to her but its actually fine tasting to me. We've done sours in the past and keep equipment seperate. No airlock. Blowoff tube from the start and never opened it during fermentation. We've done this recipe three times before.

    I'm going to go ahead and keg it unless someone says this will kill me.

    View attachment 1417380603828.jpg
     
  20. unionrdr

    Homebrewer, author & air gun shooter  

    Posted Nov 30, 2014
    Looks more like you'll get a sour saison to me. It's kinda funky in there...
     
  21. DrunkleJon

    Objects in mirror are closer than they appear  

    Posted Dec 1, 2014
    You got something. I am not sure what. And dont worry, nothing pathogenic (that can injure you) can survive in beer. Just be sure to clean the heck out of any kegging equipment that comes into contact with it.
     
  22. jgourd

    Well-Known Member

    Posted Dec 1, 2014
    One year ago, I brewed some lambic (with turbid mash) and aged it in a 59 gal wine barrel. Took out the beer (except for maybe 10 gal) a week ago to age on top of fruit. BTW, the year-old lambic is delicious! Anyways, brewed up some more to top off the barrel (it was left at 10 gal for a few hours and took two days to fill back up again -- 35 gal that day and 13 gal the next day). I did not aerate other than letting it crash into the barrel. I noticed no airlock activity for about a week and decided to check on it today. Here are the pics. Any ideas on what this is? I am also not sure if I should plan to get some additional yeast (particularly with some saccharomyces) to get strong fermentation started. The original yeast was some Wyeast WLP655 (Belgian sour mix).

    IMG_20141201_120310.jpg

    IMG_20141201_120339.jpg
     
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  23. DrunkleJon

    Objects in mirror are closer than they appear  

    Posted Dec 1, 2014
    Dunno, but I may have just found a new computer background.
     
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  24. yeahfairly

    Well-Known Member

    Posted Dec 1, 2014
    Pellicle.....
     
  25. jgourd

    Well-Known Member

    Posted Dec 1, 2014
    Yes, but do you know what kind of bacteria forms this pellicle?
     
  26. yeahfairly

    Well-Known Member

    Posted Dec 1, 2014
    Wild Yeast!
     
  27. jgourd

    Well-Known Member

    Posted Dec 1, 2014
    Should I be concerned?
     
  28. rowan57

    Well-Known Member

    Posted Dec 1, 2014
    See now when people post "infection" pictures, they should check this **** first. I would let that mother****er ride and see what you get.
     
  29. BGBC

    Well-Known Member

    Posted Dec 1, 2014
    I find it surprising that you've had 60 gallons of Lambic going and you're not sure what a pellicle is, but anyway, the bugs in WLP655 will form a pellicle:
    "WLP655: A unique blend perfect for Belgian style beers. Includes Brettanomyces, Saccharomyces, and the bacterial strains Lactobacillus and Pediococcus"

    The presence of a pellicle means two things in your case:
    1. There is oxygen present (makes sense, since you left a bunch of empty headspace for several days)
    And 2. The bugs are active (something must be active to form the pellicle, right?)

    All that said, you don't have to, but you might want to pitch some fresh sacch to help with a healthy initial fermentation, since the original sacch population from the blend will have mostly died off over the course of the last year. If you don't pitch anything else, it will still ferment, but it might take longer to get going and the results will be different than the first year lambic, since the primary fermentation will be dominated by wild yeast/bacteria, without much sacch.
     
  30. jgourd

    Well-Known Member

    Posted Dec 1, 2014
    Thanks. I know what a pellicle is. I was simply wondering if this one looked normal for that yeast strain (and not something I should be worried about). Last year, a pellicle was not formed (well, at least not at any time that I checked the barrel).
     
  31. BGBC

    Well-Known Member

    Posted Dec 1, 2014
    Yep, looks good to me, beautiful even. Again, Brett won't always form a pellicle, just under the right conditions.

    I'd post those pics in the Pellicle Photo Collection Sticky so others can admire it as well.
     
  32. ashrivers86

    Well-Known Member

    Posted Dec 4, 2014
    Just opened the top to see why my San Diego SY hasn't started fornicating. Must not be a proper seal because I just found white fuzzy bits on top of the liquid. Pretty sure it is mold because one of the white spots had blue in it.
     
  33. unionrdr

    Homebrewer, author & air gun shooter  

    Posted Dec 4, 2014
    I've seem lacto look like that on here as it progresses.
     
  34. Brew_G

    Well-Known Member

    Posted Dec 4, 2014
    I'm no expert, but your beer might be f**ked.
     
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  35. yewtah-brewha

    Well-Known Member

    Posted Dec 4, 2014
    Not necessarily, had mold growing on one last week after dry hopping, I thought the taste would be horrible, nope it was good so I kegged it, haven't tasted since carbing, but I have hope. Now I have another batch that has an oily film on top.

    Ive brewed about 30 batches and never had an infection or anything, mysteriously I switched to starsan two batches ago.. well see how this goes
     
  36. bleme

    Well-Known Member

    Posted Dec 5, 2014

    What he said, and I wouldn't blame it on the seal as mold spores don't crawl under, up and down against a current. It's much more likely that it got in there while you were cooling or aerating.
     
  37. ashrivers86

    Well-Known Member

    Posted Dec 5, 2014
    I removed the mold, but should I let it keep going or chuck it?
     
  38. ashrivers86

    Well-Known Member

    Posted Dec 5, 2014
    If it is going to be sour then I won't drink it.
     
  39. bleme

    Well-Known Member

    Posted Dec 5, 2014

    If it is fermenting, keep it. It doesn't cost you anything to wait and see what it tastes like.
     
  40. yewtah-brewha

    Well-Known Member

    Posted Dec 5, 2014
    I dont know what this is.. I saw another post with similar looking white film and some said it looked like brett, when I racked to bottling bucket the majority of the film stuck to the side of the carboy some fell into solution, what do you guys think it is. BTW it doesnt taste bad right now, 51 bottles will be carbed and ready in 1 week..

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