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Planning an IPA

Discussion in 'Recipes/Ingredients' started by MI_Dogman, Mar 30, 2015.

 

  1. #1
    MI_Dogman

    Well-Known Member  

    Posted Mar 30, 2015
    Brewers,

    Please look over my recipe I plan to brew in about a month. I'm at work right now and don't get home for another month. So I like brewing the first couple of days back onshore. I'm hoping to achieve a nice crisp tasting and not to overpowering on the hops to get ready for the Summer with this IPA recipe and want to stick with one hop for this one (really no reason on the one hop, just thought it would be fun). OH, I am not shooting for a hop bomb(even though I love them), because I want something my wife can enjoy as well. We both love Founders All Day IPA, and that has been the inspiration. Not really looking to do a clone either. I have been looking at a lot of recipes, and after doing a little research this is what I have come up with so far.

    Monkey Fist IPA

    Boil: 60min
    BH Efficiency: 70%
    Type: All Grain - Infusion Mash 1.25qt/G 60min at 150*F
    Yeast: Safale 05 at 64*f
    OG: 1.063 FG: 1.018
    ABV: 6%
    SRM: 9
    IBU: 47

    Grain:
    2-Row - 10lb (80%)
    Munich Dark - 1.5lb (12%)
    Crystal 40L - .5lb (4%)
    Carapils - .5 (4%)

    Hops:
    Amarillo - 1oz at 60min
    Amarillo - 1oz at 15min
    Amarillo - 1oz at Flameout
    Amarillo - 2oz Dryhop for 7days

    Irish Moss?

    Trying not trying to get to crazy with it. Just trying to keep it simple and get a solid recipe.

    Thanks

    - Dogman
     
  2. #2
    JonM

    Well-Known Member

    Posted Mar 30, 2015
    That looks great. I go for "less is more" in my recipes, and yours looks really good. (A lot of recipes posted here are over complicated). I think you'll get some nice malt from the Munich and some great hop aroma/flavor from all that Amarillo.
     
  3. #3
    MI_Dogman

    Well-Known Member  

    Posted Mar 30, 2015
    Thanks!

    I have been reading a lot! (Probably to much lol) Most of my inspiration comes from right here on this forum! Great support on here, and I love the idea of simple clean is to use recipes. Hopefully it works out!
     
  4. #4
    rlmiller10

    Supporting Member  

    Posted Mar 30, 2015
    That looks good. you will get some malt flavors in there with that much Munich that might take away from your "crisp". Personally I like a more malty IPA so I think it is just right. But the Munich will give more malt which will mellow "crisp"

    Take a look at your IBU/SG ratio. You are well below one which is more in the pale ale range than IPA. But there is quite a bit of overlap in the styles. And it will be perceived as even less with the malt you have. A ratio of one or just over will give you a little more hop flavor and give it a clean, bitter flavor. What I think of as a summer flavor for lack of a better way of describing it.

    I make an IPA which uses 45% maris otter to give some maltiness and I try to keep my IBU/SG ratio about 1.04. It is on the low side of hops for an IPA in my perception but it is easy to drink. I did an entire series of them last summer, one hop each and I really liked the Amarillo. Best of luck.
     
  5. #5
    mwjtennis

    Active Member  

    Posted Mar 30, 2015
    I like your research results if you never brewed an IPA before...So this is very close to my normal IPA recipe. Both grain and hops schedule. I love that dark munich, but I would lower it a bit. I usually do 1lb dark munich and 2lb vienna in 10gal batches. I'd probably use something else for the bittering to save a buck.

    My standard 10 gal grainbill honed in to my tastes after 30 or so IPA batches
    2-row 16lb
    Vienna 2lb
    Dark Munich 1lb
    Crystal10 1lb
    Carapils 1.5lb

    60mins 1.5oz high AA (like Magnum, Bravo, Columbus)
    15mins 6oz whatever yummy hops combo + fining agent
    Flameout/Short 10 min Whirlpool 6oz whatever yummy hops combo

    always I rehydrate or reuse S05
     
  6. #6
    tadkays

    Well-Known Member

    Posted Mar 30, 2015
    Your recipe should produce a beer right in the middle of the Pale Ale/IPA styles, which do overlap as stated above. Founders All Day IPA is really a Pale Ale (4.7 ABV and 42 IBU), which has different attributes than an IPA, so you have to decide which route you want to take.

    When I taste Founders, I get more wheat or oats in the flavor than I do crystal malt with something like Biscuit for some toasty notes.

    I did a Founder's All Day attempt using basically your grist but swapped out the crystal and carapils for wheat and Biscuit malt, mashed at 154 for some body, and it turned out pretty similar.

    The world is your oyster! Start out with something simple like you have, enjoy brewing it, then taste it, determine what you like and don't like, make adjustments, and brew it again!
     
  7. #7
    MI_Dogman

    Well-Known Member  

    Posted Mar 30, 2015
    Ok! So what about this...

    Instead of Amarillo for the 60min... How about 1oz Magnum at 15AA. According to Brewers Friend it with everything else it should fall into 72IBUs.

    Do you guys think that would be to much for this recipe?
     
  8. #8
    Yooper

    Ale's What Cures You! Staff Member  

    Posted Mar 30, 2015
    Yes, I woldn't go with 72 IBUs unless you wanted a real lingering bitterness flavor.

    I was actually going to go the other way, and say to reduce the 60 minute addition, and get most of the IBUs from the late hopping.

    I don't know if I like the dark Munich in this. I think I'd prefer light Munich or Vienna, for a bright malt flavor and aroma with it being too rich/dark malt flavored.

    What is your projected OG? 1.063? I like the 45-50 IBUs range in this case, if you don't want it overly bitter.
     
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  9. #9
    JonM

    Well-Known Member

    Posted Mar 30, 2015
    Magnum would work really well as a bittering addition. You should wind up with a nice balance.

    EDIT: of course, I like the real tongue-puckering bitterness in my IPAs.
     
  10. #10
    MrBinsky

    Active Member

    Posted Mar 30, 2015
    +1 on the magnum for the 60min addition. Maybe just use .5oz of magum though. I think this recipe looks really tasty. Personally, I would use 10L Munich and bump the C40 up to a pound of C60. Or if not C60, just a pound of C40. Also, the carapils is a bit high for my personal preference. I would maybe cut it down to 4oz. I find around 2% carapils is a good amount for me.

    Just as a note, if you're using US-05, then I think you'd probably get a little higher attenuation mashing at 150, but I don't really know your system. That's just me.

    As a final suggestion, I personally would just throw in a little simcoe since I love those hops together. I'm not talking about a lot of simcoe, but just enough to accent the amarillo. Maybe use a ratio of like 2:1 or 3:1 Amarillo:Simcoe.

    Like I said, these are just my thoughts of what I personally would do. I think you've got a good looking recipe here. Just my $.02
     
  11. #11
    MI_Dogman

    Well-Known Member  

    Posted Mar 30, 2015
    OH man! All this input is awesome!

    So this is what I am thinking...
    Batch: 5gal
    Boil: 6gal 60 min
    BH Eff: 70%
    Mash: Infusion at 150*F
    OG: 1.063 FG: 1.018
    ABV: 6%
    IBU: 51
    SRM: 8
    Yeast: Safale 05 at 64*F


    Grain:

    10lb 2-row
    1.5lb Munich Light
    .5lb Crystal 40L (I don't want to much Caramel flavor to come through)
    .5lb Carapils

    Hops:

    1oz Amarillo at 60 min
    1oz Amarillo at 20 min (Moved from 15 for a little extra bittering)
    1oz Amarillo at Flameout
    2oz Amarillo Dry Hop for 7 Days

    I'm still debating Irish Moss for the boil.

    How do you brewers feel about the 150*F. I still like the single hop even though it will cost a penny for the Amarillo, but its in the name of brewing.
     
  12. #12
    bragona71

    Well-Known Member

    Posted Mar 30, 2015
    +1 on magnum .5 60 min and more late hop additions
     
  13. #13
    MI_Dogman

    Well-Known Member  

    Posted Mar 30, 2015
    How about this for an alternative on Hops:

    .5oz Magnum 60
    1oz Amarillo 15
    1oz Amarillo 10
    .5oz Amarillo 5
    .5oz Amarillo Flameout
    2oz dry hop 7 days

    58 IBUs
     
  14. #14
    Yooper

    Ale's What Cures You! Staff Member  

    Posted Mar 30, 2015
    Yes! I love it.
     
  15. #15
    rlmiller10

    Supporting Member  

    Posted Mar 31, 2015
    That looks great to me. The IPA series I mentioned earlier had a IBU target of 59. In some cases I used just one hop, in others I also used Magnum for bitter and then a single hop for the rest. I called those MATH beers, Malt and two hops.

    And with a 1.055 OG it maintained that 1.03 OG to IBU ratio which seems to be the sweet spot for my tongue.

    And thank you for your service on or below the seas (not sure if you are a bubble head or a target).
     
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