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oxegyen damage to my primary/

Discussion in 'Beginners Beer Brewing Forum' started by wstandis, Nov 23, 2008.

 

  1. #1
    wstandis

    Active Member

    Posted Nov 23, 2008
    What a great place ........ i think i am home.

    Now for my question.

    I poured my fermenting beer from a 5 gallon primary to a 6 gallon primary after about 3 days as it was almost bubling over.

    Since then there has been very little activity. do you think I intordusced too much air into the mix and ruined the batch?
     
  2. #2
    WBC

    Well-Known Member

    Posted Nov 23, 2008
    Why did you do that? You may ruin the beer but time will tell. You should have used 2 fermenters as you need headroom for the krausen (foam). :confused:

    Ales should be fermented in the primary for at least 2 weeks.
     
  3. #3
    wstandis

    Active Member

    Posted Nov 23, 2008
    Yeah........ like an idiot after cooling i put it in my 5 gallon secondary instead of my 6 gallon primary by accident and ran out of headrooom.

    At that point it was a roll of the dice.... leave it and let it be crowded, hitting the top of the secondry, or transfer it and risk runining the batch
     
  4. #4
    eschatz

    Well-Known Member

    Posted Nov 23, 2008
    ahh, sometimes it's good to learn lessons. I'd start thinking about batch #2 while seeing what will happen to batch #1.

    Yeah, dont do that again. :(
     
  5. #5
    DeathBrewer

    Maniacally Malty  

    Posted Nov 23, 2008
    ya know, it may be bad, but i'll bet you're fine...as long as fermentation was still taking place. those yeasties will eat up what was absorbed and the rest of the oxygen will get pushed out by the co2.

    but yeah, don't do that again. next time use a siphon if you need to transfer.
     
  6. #6
    dontman

    Well-Known Member

    Posted Nov 23, 2008
    Wow, I think the vets here are forgetting the key mantra of homebrewing: RDWHAHB!!!

    Oxygen, while not good for beer after the aerobic phase of fermentation is more likely to only shorten the shelflife of the beer. Not ruin it from the start.

    Our OP will more than likely have ample time to drink this batch before the oxidation starts to show.

    OP, if you start tasting wet cardboard in your beer after a couple months in the bottle then you will know you are paying the price for your sin. Also it is not the end of the world to lose some through the top of the fermenter. That is why they call it blowoff. In fact in losing that you lose some of the bitter byproducts of the fermentation process, so next time, rather than doing something drastic: RDWHAHB
     
  7. #7
    yeoldebrewer

    Well-Known Member

    Posted Nov 23, 2008
    Chalk it up to experience, let it finish out and RDWHAHB while you are planning your next brew. :mug:

    It's that learning curve thing. The biggest blunder I ever made was so stoopid it shall go unmentioned. :eek:
     
  8. #8
    Waboom!!

    Well-Known Member

    Posted Nov 23, 2008
    Don't let them mature at all. After you bottle just hammer them down in like 3 days to avoid the wet newspaper taste. :mug:
     
  9. #9
    wstandis

    Active Member

    Posted Nov 23, 2008
    Well the good news is that I brewed this batch to keg for a football game in December so it will go in one day.......

    Also forgive the ignorance but what does RDWHAHB mean?
     
  10. #10
    monty3777

    Well-Known Member

    Posted Nov 24, 2008
    Yeah - you totally shouldn't have used your toilet as a fermenter.:tank:
     
  11. #11
    Waboom!!

    Well-Known Member

    Posted Nov 27, 2008
    Relax Don't Worry Have A Home Brew !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1
     
  12. #12
    KingHippo

    Part Time Brewer

    Posted Nov 27, 2008
    Aw Man thats funny:D
     
  13. #13
    JoeMama

    Well-Known Member

    Posted Nov 27, 2008
    Well, you are kind of limited to your choices in prison.
    Hmmmm, which fruit snacks will I use this time for the brew?
    LOL
    -Me
     
  14. #14
    EvilTOJ

    Well-Known Member

    Posted Nov 27, 2008
    Yea pouring is bad. But, since active fermentation was going on, it may still be salvageable. A kegger with this beer sounds like the way to go!
     
  15. #15
    yeoldebrewer

    Well-Known Member

    Posted Nov 28, 2008
    Hey, but I sprayed it with StarSan first. ;)
     
  16. #16
    GNBrews

    Well-Known Member

    Posted Nov 28, 2008
    What is the "wet cardboard" flavor that people refer to when describing oxidation? Is it literally the smell of wet cardboard translated into a flavor, or is it a euphemism for stale? How could I purposely create this flavor in a commercial brew to understand what it tastes like?
     
  17. #17
    EvilTOJ

    Well-Known Member

    Posted Nov 29, 2008
    No, the wet cardboard flavor isn't a euphemism, it quite literally smells and tastes just like wet cardboard. If you want to simulate this flavor, take a cheap beer, shake the hell out of it to get all the CO2 out of solution, pour the flat beer into a 2 liter bottle, then shake it up again. Basically, shove tons of air into a beer. Let it sit like that at least a week, taste and 'enjoy'.
     
  18. #18
    JayC

    Well-Known Member  

    Posted Nov 29, 2008
    Why is it that I, and I assume so many others, know what wet cardboard tastes like? I can't remember ever tasting it, but the first time I read about oxidation, I knew exactly what that taste was.
     
  19. #19
    Gonefishing

    Someday I'll stop procrastinating

    Posted Nov 29, 2008
    Oh come on,if you did it someone else will do the same thing at some point,and likely several people will. Confess your sin and save some brothers the trouble in the future. :mug:
     
  20. #20
    Kauai_Kahuna

    Well-Known Member

    Posted Nov 29, 2008
    I have often wondered this and the only thing I can think of was I was a very inquisitive baby that tasted everything. I may not remember doing it, but the information is still sitting somewhere in my brain.
    Not a problem until someone says this taste like crap, and somehow you know what it taste like. :off:
     
  21. #21
    wstandis

    Active Member

    Posted Dec 12, 2008
    Beer turned out fine thanks for all the help. (kegs too!)
     
  22. #22
    GilaMinumBeer

    Half-fast Prattlarian  

    Posted Dec 12, 2008
    Or, get cardboard, wet it, and pop it in your mouth. Voila!
     
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