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Off flavors using safale us-05

Discussion in 'Fermentation & Yeast' started by madz1980, Dec 20, 2015.

 

  1. #1
    madz1980

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    Posted Dec 20, 2015
    My beer taste Apple juice. I know it's a off flavor.
    Could this be due to a too low temperature during fermentation?
    Temp was 16C room temp.

    I dry hopped with Simcoe, could this be a part of the simcoe dry hop flavor?

    The beer is a regular IPA
     
  2. #2
    teddy4xp

    Well-Known Member  

    Posted Dec 20, 2015
    I have experienced a fruit off flavor of apple/peach with s05 when fermented at 60F....there are a couple of threads that discus the problem with fermenting it too cool
     
  3. #3
    madz1980

    Well-Known Member

    Posted Dec 21, 2015
    Thanks for the info :( I'm really sad about it... My mistake. Next batch I will make the fermentation upstairs.
     
  4. #4
    brewprint

    Well-Known Member

    Posted Dec 21, 2015
    What recipe did you do?

    I can tell you that with extract I've had a peach flavor from safeale 05. That was fermented around 68. Many times I've had that happen. In my experience the low temp is a myth.

    That yeast is temperamental. It could be the way that it's processed more than temps.

    I've used it with an all grain IPA once and the beer was good and I didn't have the peach flavor.

    I did just order 4 packs of it to give it another try. Only because I may not feel like firing up the pressure canner to make starter wort this week.
     
  5. #5
    feinbera

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    Posted Dec 21, 2015
    Could just be your beer is "green," i.e., not quite ready to drink yet. How long since you pitched the yeast? A green apple flavor can be caused by acetaldehyde, which will usually condition out if you let the beer sit on the yeast for a few more days.

    If the room was 16 °C (~61 °F), the beer was probably one or two degrees C warmer (three-five degrees F) at the height of fermentation, so, fermenting too cool probably wasn't your issue.
     
  6. #6
    charliethebum

    Well-Known Member

    Posted Dec 21, 2015
    Recipe?

    I've personally never had off flavors from us05, although I've never submitted it to anything under 64f.
     
  7. #7
    brewprint

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    Posted Dec 21, 2015
    He said 'apple juice' not 'green apple.' To me that is a big difference.
     
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    Ryat66

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    Posted Dec 21, 2015
    Kegged or bottled?
     
  9. #9
    madz1980

    Well-Known Member

    Posted Dec 21, 2015
    Bottled, look at next post
     
  10. #10
    madz1980

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    Posted Dec 21, 2015
    I tought it was yeast floating on top but I found this 'b#$?ch' on the side of the fermenter... It was undrinkable, total contamination caused by this little fly...

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  11. #11
    Homercidal

    Licensed Sensual Massage Therapist.  

    Posted Dec 21, 2015
    Bummer.
     
  12. #12
    brewbama

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    Posted Dec 21, 2015
    Well, good news is you have a pretty good idea of what caused the off flavor. So many times there's no smoking gun and SWAGs are made without really knowing.
     
  13. #13
    Gavin C

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    Posted Dec 21, 2015
    Cool picture of the fly.

    Best not to use a bucket for a secondary vessel if you intend using one.

    Too much head space, large surface area and poor seal can tick all the boxes for a vinegar beer.
     
  14. #14
    brewprint

    Well-Known Member

    Posted Dec 21, 2015
    Yep you can tell by looking at the coating on the top that it's infected.

    Hard to believe a little fly caused an infection in a whole batch of brew.

    It just seems extremely hard to get an infection when yeast takes over but I guess it happens.
     
  15. #15
    Ryat66

    Well-Known Member

    Posted Dec 22, 2015
    Ah, sorry man! I know it's not really a consolation but at least you know what caused it (the fly). That's better than the ghost pathogen that you have to bleach bomb everything and hope that you killed it.
     
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