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NorthernBrewer Bourbon Barrel Porter

Discussion in 'Extract Brewing' started by Headcase, Dec 7, 2009.

 

  1. Philip_T

    Well-Known Member

    Posted Aug 12, 2011
    Yep, but others have reported getting stuck around 1.025 to 1.030. Do a starter if your using liquid yeast.
     
  2. martialscientist

    Member

    Posted Aug 12, 2011
    I did plan on doing a starter. I'll post my progress with this brew.
     
  3. Philip_T

    Well-Known Member

    Posted Aug 13, 2011
    Just added the rum/oak to the secondary. Smelled amazing! Thanksgiving can't get here quick enough...

    Total of 2 weeks in the primary, 2 weeks in the secondary without rum/oak and will do at least another 2 to 4 weeks in the secondary with the rum/oak.

    I'm only 9 batches in so far, but I can already tell that this is my best batch to date. No doubt about it!
     
  4. drocu

    Well-Known Member

    Posted Aug 15, 2011
    Update: 8/14/11 OG = 1.058, FG = 1.027 after 2 weeks in primary.

    I don't think that increasing the amount of yeast that I pitched would have made much of a difference, especially given a lot of the other posts on here. The hydro sample tasted great on its own. I may make this again without the addition of bourbon and oak.

     
  5. BeerWard

    Well-Known Member

    Posted Aug 16, 2011
    Finally brewed this beer. I went the all grain route, had a jump in efficiency using the mashout. OG of 1.072 and got about 5.75 gallons. More Beer!! When I move to secondary with the oaked bourbon, i may take any remaining beer and bottle to have a non-bourbon control test
     
  6. casey914

    Active Member

    Posted Aug 16, 2011
    What is everyone's recommendation for priming on this one? Do you need all 5oz?
     
  7. dlm3

    Well-Known Member

    Posted Aug 17, 2011
    I just went with 3.7 oz corn sugar for priming. I just tried my first one have 3 weeks in the bottle and it was nice. I think this style benefits from lower carbonation. It wasn't flat, but didn't have much of a head. Ultimately it's your preference though.
     
  8. jghbt

    Member

    Posted Aug 17, 2011
    I had 17.6 liters to prime and used 111g of corn sugar. I had targetted 2.2 volumes of CO2. It seems to be pretty perfect so far.
     
  9. Philip_T

    Well-Known Member

    Posted Aug 17, 2011
    I was thinking of using closer to 4 than 5 myself.
    A: I'm below 5 gallons now due to trub loss.
    B: I don't want a huge head on my porters. Some, but not a lot.
     
  10. craig_reed

    Well-Known Member

    Posted Aug 19, 2011
    What did you guys do for a starter for this beer?

    I was just thinking the standard 1/2 cup DME into 4 cups water boil, bring to 70 degrees and pitch the wyeast packet into it.

    Will this work? Or what did you guys do? I just smacked the pack for a Saturday brew day
     
  11. bottlebomber

    Well-Known Member

    Posted Aug 19, 2011
    This works (or any scaled version), but I prefer to remember the 1-10 rule, 1 gram of DME per 10 ml of water, so 100 grams for a 1 liter starter etc. You have to have a scale for that method though

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  12. 54BelAir

    Well-Known Member

    Posted Aug 19, 2011
    That's what I did, and I had no problems as all getting fermentation to start when I pitched. Some may suggest a bigger starter.
     
  13. drocu

    Well-Known Member

    Posted Aug 19, 2011
    It probably doesn't matter for just a 24hr starter, but why the airlock? I've always thought that the whole purpose of a starter is to increase cell numbers and the best way to do that is to oxygenate the yeast culture. You're not trying to cause fermentation, just growth.

    I'd say just cover loosely with foil and give it a swirl every now and then to oxygenate.
     
  14. bottlebomber

    Well-Known Member

    Posted Aug 19, 2011
    Oh missed the airlock part... yeah you don't need to do that :) I use a foam stopper
     
  15. Philip_T

    Well-Known Member

    Posted Aug 19, 2011
    I typically use 4.5 ounces of DME and 6 cups of water in the boil. After evaporation, the whole batch fits nicely in my 1 liter flask. I've read that the ratio you want is something like 6 ounces for every 8 cups, or 3 ounces for every 4 cups.

    I also like to let mine ferment for a couple days, then put it in the fridge for 24 hours for the yeast to fall out, then pour off (decant) the excess wort leaving just enough to swirl into the yeast cake before warming it back up to room temp and pitching.
     
  16. bottlebomber

    Well-Known Member

    Posted Aug 19, 2011
    48 ounces of water plus DME fits in your 1 liter flask?
     
  17. Philip_T

    Well-Known Member

    Posted Aug 19, 2011
    Well, I'm pretty sure that's the ratio I used last time. And I know my 1 liter flask actually holds more than 1 liter. And taking into account evaporation......but let me double check my notes when I get home.
     
  18. Puckhead

    Well-Known Member

    Posted Aug 19, 2011
    I made this last October an split the batch half MM half Spiced Rum both turned out great. I'm now making a batch of each I the next couple weeks.. Def dial down the priming sugar. At 2.5 oz in 3 gallons it poured a very big head. Excellent beer though....
     
  19. Philip_T

    Well-Known Member

    Posted Aug 19, 2011
    I'm curious as to how you liked the spiced rum batch Puckhead, as that is basically what I used for mine, but it won't be ready until November.
     
  20. uncle_jimbo

    Active Member

    Posted Aug 22, 2011
    I've got this one bubbling away like crazy right now about 48 hours after brewing. Had a nasty blowoff yesterday even though I had a blowoff hose on it. It was just a 1/4" hose in a punched bung. Went and bought a 1.25" hose to stick straight in the hole of the carboy and haven't had any problems with clogging.

    The beer in the carboy is a beautiful color right now. I didn't get nearly the starting gravity I wanted, but I bet it'll still be delicious.

    I see most people are saying to let it age for a few weeks, at least, and that it will be ready by about Christmas.

    How long should I have it in primary/secondary/bottle-aging? I was thinking 2 weeks primary, 4 weeks secondary, and a month bottle aging, but that won't be nearly Christmas, so I'm wondering if maybe I need to do some of those longer....
     
  21. CompassBrewing

    Well-Known Member

    Posted Aug 23, 2011
    I just brewed mine yesterday and figured 3 week primary (standard for all of my brews), then a month secondary and bottled till christmas
     
  22. woodenbuick

    Well-Known Member

    Posted Aug 23, 2011
    I brewed on earlier this year and had one with dinner tonight. It gets better every time i drink one.
    Smooths out a bit more every time.
    I will make it again.
     
  23. 54BelAir

    Well-Known Member

    Posted Aug 23, 2011
    Racked to secondary yesterday. It tasted great before adding the bourbon and oak. I think that this one is going to live up to all of the positive press that it has gotten here.
     
  24. MDRex

    Well-Known Member

    Posted Aug 23, 2011
    I went 2 months on the oak and I used a more robust bourbon, Jim Beam Black. I was going for more oak and bourbon up front and wanted to be able to let it age for quite a while to see how things blend and mellow. I first tried mine after 6 weeks in the bottle and the oak was super strong, but the beer was very good. I'm not going to try it again until the end of September for a BBQ competition and then drinking everyfew months to see how it ages.

    If you want to drink within a few months I would not go nearly as long as I did on the oak.

    I also added brett to a gallon and put that in a growler to age for a while.
     
  25. Philip_T

    Well-Known Member

    Posted Aug 23, 2011
    Nice guys. Hoping to see a lot of new reviews around October/November from all of the recent batches. Mine goes in the bottle this weekend....I took a whiff of it the other night and the Zaya Rum really added the vanilla/caramel/spice texture that I was looking for. Can't wait to try one of these.
     
  26. BBFCreatureFM

    Active Member

    Posted Aug 23, 2011
    Racked to secondary yesterday onto 16 oz of Maker's with double (4oz) of toasted chips that have been marinating together for 3 weeks. The porter itself was great, but just a slight bit thinner than what I'd expected. I'm hoping the bourbon doesn't overwhelm, but I've no doubt that whatever it is I've made, it will be tasty. With all the batches going in this thread, I too will be looking for late Fall/early Winter reviews. I like the idea of rum as well. There are some great small-batch rums that we've got access to down here in S. Fla.
     
  27. glenn514

    Supporting Member  

    Posted Aug 23, 2011
    My batch went into secondary today, primarily because I needed my 6 gallon Better Bottle for a batch of Cream Ale I brewed up this morning! I will put the oak chips and bourbon in the wort on Labor Day. My wife and I are then taking a two-week trip on our Honda Gold Wing to see oldest daughter [pregnant with first child] in Dallas, TX and youngest daughter [Ph.D. student at Tulane University] in New Orleans, LA. We plan to return home on or about 20 September, which will give the Porter four weeks in secondary.

    Our first grandbaby will be born in early December in Dallas. Wife plans to drive down before Christmas, so she will take the Porter in the car. I'll fly down on Christmas Day with daughters #2 and #3. I sure do hope the Porter is a hit!

    glenn514:mug:
     
  28. craig_reed

    Well-Known Member

    Posted Aug 23, 2011
    Weather has cooperated, finished my deck over the weekend, so I will be brewing this one up tonight!

    How long are you leaving it in the primary befor emoving to oak and bourbon? I was thinking 2 weeks, then 4 weeks on the oak chips, then 2 months or so in the bottle before cracking -
     
  29. Philip_T

    Well-Known Member

    Posted Aug 23, 2011
    I think most people are fermenting right around 6 weeks between primary and secondary. I did 2 weeks in the primary, then 2 weeks without oak in the secondary, then 2 weeks with oak in the secondary. Planning on at least 2 months in the bottle, but I know that I'll cave and have to open one after a couple weeks just to gauge it and just how much time improves it.
     
  30. bingc

    Member

    Posted Aug 24, 2011
    Mine has been in the primary for 2 days now with no signs of fermentation :\.
    I used Wyeast, it seemed to bloat well in the bag. I keep reading that this recipe has been fermenting like crazy within 24 hours. What did i do wrong?
     
  31. Philip_T

    Well-Known Member

    Posted Aug 24, 2011
    What temperature was the wort at when you pitched the yeast?
     
  32. bingc

    Member

    Posted Aug 24, 2011
    I pitched the yeast at around 80degrees F. Its in my fridge now at around 64degrees F.
    I'll just be patient :).
     
  33. FlipMasterFlash

    Well-Known Member

    Posted Aug 25, 2011
    Worth doing, more so than any of my other beers this one has changed over time which has been fun to taste. I brewed it almost a year ago now and it changed most over the first few months, really mellowed and blended in those months. Haven't had one in about 4 months, plan to crack a few this weekend and I'm looking forward to tasting what it is like now.

    Up front I though I had made a mistake in using 24 oz of Makers but I really like the beer now and don't think it'd be the same without that extra Makers.
     
  34. Philip_T

    Well-Known Member

    Posted Aug 29, 2011
    So this got bottled over the weekend. It's pretty heavy on the oak, but I'm hoping that mellows over time. The Zaya Rum is amazing in it....next time I make this I'm going to use the whole bottle. I'm also toying the idea of bumping the ABV next time as I think this beer would benefit by being a little bigger. All in all, I can already tell it's going to be my best batch to date. Great recipe! :rockin:
     
  35. glenn514

    Supporting Member  

    Posted Aug 29, 2011
    My oak chips are currently "marinating" in 16 ounces of bourbon whiskey. That will be added to the secondary next Monday, and then it will sit for more than two weeks while we are out of town. Hope to bottle it toward the end of September.

    glenn514:mug:
     
  36. smurfwar

    Well-Known Member

    Posted Aug 29, 2011
    Will be brewing this in a few weeks. I only have 6.5 glass carboys. Can i add co2 to top for secondary or can i extend my primary and condition in keg?
     
  37. 54BelAir

    Well-Known Member

    Posted Aug 30, 2011
    Wow! I just tasted a sample from the secondary after 1 week. All I can say that it is amazing. I could bottle and drink this right now. I am going to have a hard time waiting the four weeks for secondary, and the four months conditioning I was planning on.
     
  38. CompassBrewing

    Well-Known Member

    Posted Aug 30, 2011
    I've done the co2 on top of the secondary in the past and hadn't noticed any ill effects. I believe i racked it a bit early too so there would be still be a little activity to help push out the rest of the air
     
  39. craig_reed

    Well-Known Member

    Posted Aug 30, 2011
    Brewed mine up on Saturday and it has been in my ferm chamber at 65 degrees since with a blowoff tube -

    No noticeable signs after 12 hours, and then a few hours later, it was bubbling like crazy, foaming up and out of my growler with sanitizer. It is still going pretty steady 3 days later.

    How long are you/have you left this in the primary for? I was thinking about transferring it as soon as possible to the oak. Think it should all be settled out and most of the ferm done after a week.

    Thoughts?
     
  40. 54BelAir

    Well-Known Member

    Posted Aug 30, 2011
    I fermented in the mid 60's also. I had nice activity for 4-5 days and then it settled down. I left it in primary for a total of 3 weeks before racking. It came out nice and clean tasting.
     
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