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Northern Brewer Replacement

Discussion in 'General Homebrew Discussion' started by dustinthompson85, Oct 19, 2016.

 

  1. cjones

    Well-Known Member

    Posted Oct 24, 2016
    Homebrew stuff out of Boise Idaho might be another good resource
     
  2. AZ_IPA

    PKU  

    Posted Oct 24, 2016
    Has ownership changed? It's my understanding that the terms of the agreement were not released...
     
  3. VApatriot

    Well-Known Member

    Posted Oct 24, 2016
    Isn't it nice to live in a country where people can support any business that they choose to, even if others thinks that personal choice is absurd?

    Dude, here's the thing, obviously everyone has their own opinion. Some of the members here have been sharing theirs regarding NB/Midwest's new ownership. From what I've read on this thread, no one is suggesting that you, or anyone else not buy stuff from NB/Midwest. When it comes right down to it, it's your choice, it's your money. Regardless of whether you earned it, or got it as a hand out from the government. No one, but no one, really cares where you spend your money. Why should you care where anyone else spends theirs?
     
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  4. GilaMinumBeer

    Half-fast Prattlarian  

    Posted Oct 24, 2016
    Ahhh, I see it now. It is okay to have an opinion, just so long as it conforms with the majority. Merica! Fvck yeah.

    I for one, will continue to view taking pride in potentially forcing thousands of Americans into unemployment, for THIS reason, as absurd.
     
  5. Le_Ace_Club

    Banned

    Posted Oct 24, 2016
    So you no longer purchase/enjoy Goose Island, Lagunitas, or Ballast Point beers?

    All this talk seems like one big exercise in cutting off one's nose to spite one's face.
     
  6. WaltStarr

    Well-Known Member

    Posted Oct 24, 2016
    Nope. I drank Goose Island products years ago, and spent much time in the restaurant/lounge at the brewery, but stopped as soon as they sold out.

    Was never into Lagunitas or Ballast Point.
     
  7. GilaMinumBeer

    Half-fast Prattlarian  

    Posted Oct 24, 2016
    Don't you see? It's one thing to buy chinese manufactured equipment and imported malts/hops so long as it's an American company selling it. Because, you know, all that money stays American. ;)
     
  8. AZ_IPA

    PKU  

    Posted Oct 24, 2016
    Did you shop at Northern Brewer after they "sold out" the first time? Or did you wait until this time?
     
  9. Le_Ace_Club

    Banned

    Posted Oct 24, 2016
    Ah, so the illusion of independence is required so as to maintain the ability to act superior to those who drink "swill"/are not homebrewers. Gotcha.

    Funny thing, Goose Island, Lagunitas, and Ballast Point beers still taste good. :mug:
     
  10. GilaMinumBeer

    Half-fast Prattlarian  

    Posted Oct 24, 2016
    Aren't those breweries still run by the very people who founded them?
     
  11. Le_Ace_Club

    Banned

    Posted Oct 24, 2016
    Yes, but their souls have been removed due to the buyouts.
     
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  12. jim4529

    New Member

    Posted Oct 24, 2016
    You're assuming those employees won't lose their jobs precisely BECAUSE they've been bought by a conglomerate. Besides, this takeover is not good for the industry, just a grab by a big, overseas corporation IMHO.
     
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  13. ImNoExpert

    Supporting Member  

    Posted Oct 24, 2016
    When a president loses an election his 100s of not 1000s of his staff and appointees lose their jobs as a result. Do you always vote for the incumbent?
     
  14. Le_Ace_Club

    Banned

    Posted Oct 24, 2016
    And why isn't the takeover good for the industry?
     
  15. GilaMinumBeer

    Half-fast Prattlarian  

    Posted Oct 24, 2016
    Hmm. Depends. Did the incumbent pay taxes while drinking Bud Light?

    Do you always compare Palm Trees to Porcupines?
     
  16. WaltStarr

    Well-Known Member

    Posted Oct 24, 2016
    Northern Brewer never "sold out" before now.

    They did acquire Midwestern, though, but Farley has never sold the company out before.
     
  17. biochemedic

    Well-Known Member  

    Posted Oct 24, 2016
    I love this shop because you can order specialty grains by the ounce, and organized grain bills into recipes. They ship very fast, and I seem to get stuff very quickly, considering that it's coming to me in PA from TX.
     
  18. AZ_IPA

    PKU  

    Posted Oct 24, 2016
    Is Farley still the President and CEO? Yes or No?
     
  19. GilaMinumBeer

    Half-fast Prattlarian  

    Posted Oct 24, 2016
    I'll agree it has the potential to be bad. I just think it's better to wait on throwing out the baby until you know it's sh1t the bathwater.
     
  20. WaltStarr

    Well-Known Member

    Posted Oct 24, 2016
    Doesn't matter one bit to me. ABInBev owns them, ergo, they get zero business from me ever again.
     
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  21. Le_Ace_Club

    Banned

    Posted Oct 24, 2016
    I also agree it has the potential to be bad, as well as the potential to be good or neutral. However, that's not what he said.
     
  22. AZ_IPA

    PKU  

    Posted Oct 24, 2016
    I think we should all just go back to horse draw buggies. That damn disruptive growth strategy known as the automobile is sure to fail...
     
  23. Ameritoon

    Well-Known Member

    Posted Oct 24, 2016
    I use txbrewing.com as well as my LHBS.
     
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  24. WaltStarr

    Well-Known Member

    Posted Oct 24, 2016
    Now you're making absolutely no sense whatsoever in your arguments. That's not even an analogy to the arguments presented by those who will never do business with NB/Midwestern.

    What you are doing is presenting a "straw man" that you built up out of nothing so you could knock it down.
     
  25. AZ_IPA

    PKU  

    Posted Oct 24, 2016
    I'm not arguing anything.

    I just find it comical the stance you're taking.
     
  26. WaltStarr

    Well-Known Member

    Posted Oct 24, 2016
    Oddly enough, I find your stance completely comical.
     
  27. robh

    Member

    Posted Oct 24, 2016
  28. snaproll

    Well-Known Member

    Posted Oct 24, 2016
    small correction here I think that store is in Taylor, but you don't have to date your sister to shop there
     
  29. Decimotox

    Well-Known Member

    Posted Oct 24, 2016
    Why is everyone up in arms about this? NB/Midwest. as I understand it, will still maintain their general structure. I'm sure there will be new products available eventually, but I just don't see the huge problem.

    It's not like they're going to start selling only kits to make Budweiser, et al. I feel like it could only help in getting new ingredients, products, etc. What am I missing?
     
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  30. fbold1

    Brew Nut  

    Posted Oct 24, 2016
    Southern Home Brew has some great deals as does Label Peelers
    .I also have a great local supplier, Home Brew Ohio.
     
  31. WaltStarr

    Well-Known Member

    Posted Oct 24, 2016
    Having a local shop makes things tons easier.
     
  32. GilaMinumBeer

    Half-fast Prattlarian  

    Posted Oct 24, 2016
    Not entirely. I'd agree it is unlikely but, this venture does have the potential for marketing innovations in brewing directly to a target demographic.
     
  33. AZ_IPA

    PKU  

    Posted Oct 24, 2016
    I have no stance. PKU. ;)
     
  34. GilaMinumBeer

    Half-fast Prattlarian  

    Posted Oct 24, 2016
    But will they still honor the discount code?
     
  35. WaltStarr

    Well-Known Member

    Posted Oct 24, 2016
    I see zero chance of any innovation coming out of the deal.

    You've been railing against people who refuse to do business with NB for several pages now. Of course you have a stance.
     
  36. GilaMinumBeer

    Half-fast Prattlarian  

    Posted Oct 24, 2016
    The middle part.
     
  37. Whut

    You heard me.  

    Posted Oct 24, 2016
    Here you all go. ;)

    General Description of Beer: Budweiser Clone Recipe

    Batch Size:5 gallon Boil Time:90 minutes
    Grains and Malts: lbs:
    American 2-row 3
    American 6-row 2
    American Flaked Rice 2
    Hops: oz Addition Time:
    Hallertau Hersbrucker 0.5 60 minutes (boil)
    Hallertau Hersbrucker 1 5 minutes (boil)
    Mashing Schedule:

    Step Temperature Step Time
    149 90 minutes
    175 10 minutes

    Mash pH Calculator

    Additional Ingredients:

    Others: Addition Amount: Addition Timing:
    Whirfloc Tablet 1 tablet 10 minutes (boil)
    Yeast Nutrient per supplier 10 minutes (boil)
    Critical Brewing Targets:
    Original Gravity: 1.03
    Final Gravity: 1.002

    Mash Efficiency: 75%
    Alc By Vol Estimate: 4.2%
    Color Target (SRM): 2
    Carbonation Method (sugar primed or kegged): Kegged
    Carbonation Volumes: 3

    Carbonation Calculator
    Alcohol ABV, ABW, Attentuaion, and Calorie Calculator

    Fermenation:
    Yeast Brand: White Labs
    Yeast Name: American Lager
    Yeast #: WLP840
    Yeast Starter: Yes
    Aeration: Oxygenate 20 seconds with stone

    Stage: Temp °F: Days:
    Stage 1 53 14
    Stage 2 55 14
    Stage 3 57 14

    Yeast Pitching Rate Calculator
    Yeast Strain Database
    Comments From the Brewer:
    This is a true lager so it will need a starter or more yeast for it to ferment as it should. Stage three of the fermentation is not a transfer to third fermentor, it is only a temperature change. It also wouldnt hurt to chill the batch down to 32F following fermentation for 5 days to settle out the yeast.

    And yes, buy the ingredients from either Northwestern or MidWest.
     
  38. treacheroustexan

    Well-Known Member

    Posted Oct 24, 2016
    HBO is awesome. I don't go there much anymore but usually hit it up when I visit my family in Bellevue.
     
  39. meltroha

    Well-Known Member

    Posted Oct 24, 2016
    thebrewmentor.com
     
  40. bleme

    Well-Known Member

    Posted Oct 24, 2016
    I don't have a local LHBS but I have 2 local micro-breweries that will sell full bags of grain to local home brewers at cost. Your local homebrew club should have all the connections.
     
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