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no output from STC-1000

Discussion in 'Fermenters' started by twd000, Dec 2, 2011.

 

  1. #1
    twd000

    Well-Known Member

    Posted Dec 2, 2011
    I bought two 110V STC-1000 controllers off eBay for my side-by-side fridge conversion. I got them wired into a box and turned it on. The default values are left as-is, so there is a 3 minute compressor delay where the cooling light blinks. After the delay, I hear the relay snap, the red light stays on and...nothing. I get no power to the switched outlet I wired to Unit #1, nor the bare leads I wired to Unit #2. I tried plugging in various electrical devices, fans, etc just to see if it would run them (haven't plugged in fridge yet).

    The directions and sticker on the controller say 11V supply, 220V output (wouldn't that be impossible?). But I opened the box and the Zettler magnetics sticker clearly lists [email protected] AC.

    So I'm confused. Should I expect my multimeter to read 100V across the output side once the red cooling light on on? I'm not getting any reading.
     
  2. #2
    Walker

    I use secondaries. :p  

    Posted Dec 2, 2011
    It seems a common mistake for people to think that the two terminals on the relay (like, terminals 7 & 8 of the controller) act as a "power outlet", and they try to hook the hot and neutral lines of their fridge or heater to pins 7 & 8.

    Is that what you did?
     
  3. #3
    janivar123

    Well-Known Member

    Posted Dec 2, 2011
    yep in other words the stc-1000 is one thermostat controller and 2 separate switches
    7 and 8 is in and out...
     
  4. #4
    twd000

    Well-Known Member

    Posted Dec 2, 2011
    Yes, I hooked 7 to the white side of the power outlet, and 8 to the black side of the outlet. Is that not right? How should I be connecting it?
     
  5. #5
    samc

    Well-Known Member

    Posted Dec 2, 2011
    You use the terminals to interrupt the hot side, black usually if you do things right.
     
  6. #6
    twd000

    Well-Known Member

    Posted Dec 2, 2011
    OK, I found a wiring diagram that matches what you described - you have to talk real slow and use small words around us Mechanical Engineers ;-)
     
  7. #7
    cwi

    Banned

    Posted Dec 3, 2011
    I remember the special "Circuits for Non-believers" class they had for you guys.
    Did your controller not have a stick figure drawing of a switch on the sticker above the terminals?
     
  8. #8
    twd000

    Well-Known Member

    Posted Dec 3, 2011

    yeah, in fact it did have a diagram. Same one you see here in the bottom right corner. http://www.rise.com.hk/ebayproducts/manuals/temperature_controller_mini.pdf

    Being an ME, I interpreted it literally like a plumbing diagram and hooked up A to B...
     
  9. #9
    cwi

    Banned

    Posted Dec 3, 2011
    So that's how the three stooges got the water to come out of the chandelier when the light switch was flipped. Always wondered about that.
     
  10. #10
    nutsok

    Member

    Posted Dec 4, 2011
    I too did the same thing but I am not using or making a whole electrical box. Can you dumb this down for me even more. I'm only using this for cooling so I'm wiring it straight in. From my wall outlet, I have that power cable going to 1 and 2 of the controller. And I have 7 and 8 going to the freezer. (1 & 8 are hot, 2 & 7 are the nuetrals) Please tell me how to set this up.
     
  11. #11
    janivar123

    Well-Known Member

    Posted Dec 4, 2011
    8 is hot out 7 is hot in (cooling)
    neutral and ground should be connected directly, bypassing the controller
    1 goes to 7, 2 goes direct to freezer
     
  12. #12
    Walker

    I use secondaries. :p  

    Posted Dec 5, 2011
    Here's about as simple of a diagram as you will get. The black/white/green wires that are on the lower left corner are the power feed coming in from whatever cord you have plugged into the wall.

    [​IMG]

    If you don't want heating capability then don't connect either of the wires that are on terminals 5 or 6 of the controller (and there is no need to break off the tab on the outlet either).

    If you don't want cooling, then don't hook up the wires that are on terminals 7 and 8 of the controller (and there is no need to break off the tab on the outlet).
     
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  13. #13
    Nanitebrewing

    Active Member

    Posted Jan 21, 2012
    I'd like to wire mine directly onto the power cord for my freezer. I'm a little confused about how to do it. Does the neutral need to be wired in or just use the hot?
     
  14. #14
    raouliii

    Well-Known Member

    Posted Jan 21, 2012
    You'll need some type of enclosure. Both hot and neutral are needed to power the controller on terminals 1 & 2. Use terminals 7 & 8 to interrupt/switch the hot to the freezer.
     
  15. #15
    brewfreeordie

    Well-Known Member

    Posted Aug 10, 2012
    I just got one of these myself. I'm really happy with the unit.
     
  16. #16
    gx1400

    Well-Known Member

    Posted Aug 10, 2012
    You sir just made me smile remembering the days of college. Silly MEs
     
  17. #17
    twd000

    Well-Known Member

    Posted Aug 11, 2012
    In my simple mind, every switch is a knife switch, since I can "See" it close the circuit :confused:
     
  18. #18
    Brewsmack

    Well-Known Member

    Posted Jan 12, 2013
    Thanks for the diagram. I was having the same issue.
     
  19. #19
    Texastrooper

    Well-Known Member

    Posted May 4, 2014
    Thanks. I fell for the same. Sorry but these instructions leave lot to be desired. But now it is working.
     
  20. #20
    Cardinal_Vintage

    Member

    Posted Jun 14, 2014
    Very helpful thread. The diagram on the STC is very deceiving.
     
  21. #21
    balrog

    Supporting Member  

    Posted Jun 16, 2014
    I found this to be the easiest diagram BeerGrylls

    EDIT: But then, I like having the fuse, and the always on; in fact, I made one whole double outlet HOT, another COLD and a third always on (recirc fan in FermChamb), fitting it all in one of those outdoor 4x4x6 gray boxes.
     
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