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New mill=way better efficiency!

Discussion in 'All Grain & Partial Mash Brewing' started by Stocktonbrew, Nov 30, 2013.

 

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    Stocktonbrew

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    Posted Nov 30, 2013
    I have made the same amber ale three times now. With the same ingredients I have gone from 63% and 66% with LHBS grind, to 83% with the new mill set at .039. I was really surprised at the difference. Aside from the efficiency, it was also cool to mill in the garage and throw in the mash tun two minutes later. I should have done this years ago.
     
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    Chadwick

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    Posted Nov 30, 2013
    I hear you brother. My first all grain batches was using grains milled from the mail-order company I like to do business with. I always wondered about the quality of the crush, with all of the whole grains and most only broke in two pieces. I bought a hand cranking mill and modified it to work with my cordless drill. My efficiency was anywhere from 30-50% before. In the 5 batches I've done since, my lowest has been 80% and my best has been 90%. And this is while mashing with the BIAB technique.

    Night and day. So yeah, I feel your joy. Life is good now, right?
     
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    Stocktonbrew

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    Posted Nov 30, 2013
    Life is good. I was all over the place with my efficiency.
     
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    BansheeRider

    Well-Known Member

    Posted Nov 30, 2013
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    kmcace

    Active Member

    Posted Nov 30, 2013
    That is the one that I have and I love it. I run mine with a 1/2" Craftsmen drill. I have been using several times a month for about a year with no problems at all.
     
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    BansheeRider

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    Posted Nov 30, 2013
    Yeah I think I'll pick one up. The best part is that the crusher has a lifetime warranty.
     
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    Stocktonbrew

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    Posted Nov 30, 2013
    I have the Monster Mill 2 2.0, but I have read a lot of people like the Barley Crusher. Just get one that you can adjust and it will probably be a lot better than the LHBS crush. I dont know if its to sell more grain or help to avoid a stuck sparge, but the mills at the brew stores that I have been going to are set too coarse.
     
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    kh54s10

    Supporting Member  

    Posted Nov 30, 2013
    I use a Corona style mill. It was a Christmas present last year - about $25. I have my efficiency set at 68% in Beersmith. My efficiency numbers vary but all the beers are great!
     
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    BansheeRider

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    Posted Nov 30, 2013
    Yeah the barley crusher is about $150. I have a $75 gift card for amazon so I think I'll buy that. It's a pricey piece of equipment but it'll last a lifetime.
     
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    Begin2Brew

    Searching for the perfect beer one at a time  

    Posted Nov 30, 2013
    I have had the Barley crusher for about 2 and a half years now and love it. Pretty much set it and forget it. I did get the small hopper and wish I would have gotten the larger one though.
     
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    tsjolin

    Member

    Posted Nov 30, 2013
    I bought the barley crusher and I'm loving it. Same reports as everyone else, big jump in efficiency. I saw you mentioned the amazon gift card but when I bought mine it was actually cheaper to watch northern brewer or Midwest supplies for one of their "spend x get y" deals. I think when I bought mine I got a free carboy and free shipping after adding some other necessities.
     
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    tsjolin

    Member

    Posted Nov 30, 2013
    Another thought... Find a way to power whatever mill you get. Hand cranking takes longer than you'd expect.
     
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    Stocktonbrew

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    Posted Nov 30, 2013
    I agree. I have a Dewalt 10.5 amp drill and it powered through 15 pounds of grain in about 2 minutes. It has plenty of torque. I'm really happy with it.
     
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    stevedasleeve

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    Posted Nov 30, 2013
    I had a barley crusher for two years, didn't like it much. Switched to the monster mill 3, it increased efficiency and was pretty good but changing the gap was a royal pain! Been using a monster Mill 2 with the 2 inch rollers, so far with five brews it seems like the best of the bunch.
     
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    Stocktonbrew

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    Posted Nov 30, 2013
    I heard others say the same thing about the three roller monster mill. The two roller 2.0 version adjusts in about five seconds. They also changed the set screw design. It seems much stronger.
     
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    kaips1

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    Posted Nov 30, 2013
    Not if you have any muscles in your arms, I refuse to use a motor on my mill and I get it crushed in no time. I'm also not a lazy old fat ass like most brewers I see.
     
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    TrubHead

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    Posted Nov 30, 2013
    Don't have a mill yet so have to break out the rolling pin for the un-cracked grains. :cross:
     
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    DrWill

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    Posted Nov 30, 2013
    A motorised mill is essential for doing large batches. Even if you're not a "lazy old fat ass" you don't want to hand mill 75kg of grain.
     
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    BansheeRider

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    Posted Nov 30, 2013
    I have a cordless Dewalt drill. Do cordless drills work well or does everybody use a plug in drill? I was doing some research on YouTube on this crusher and everybody was using a plug in power drill.
     
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    DrWill

    Well-Known Member

    Posted Nov 30, 2013
    Totally depends on your drill. Some cordless drills are powerful enough but many don't have sufficient torque.
     
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    Stocktonbrew

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    Posted Nov 30, 2013
    I was curious about the cordless drill too. It sucked spending the money on a 1/2 inch corded drill I knew I was not going to use for anything else but the mill. I'm happy I got it though.
     
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    BansheeRider

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    Posted Nov 30, 2013
    Maybe I'll brew a small 2 gal batch and see how my cordless drill works. I'm sure I can find a corded drill on CL for cheap, or just borrow my neighbors.
     
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    LeafMan66_67

    Member

    Posted Nov 30, 2013
    I use an 18v Dewalt cordless drill on my Barley Crusher. There's plenty of torque and good control at low speed.
     
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    BansheeRider

    Well-Known Member

    Posted Nov 30, 2013
    I think that's the one I have. I'm at work so I can't check which model I have. I think I have the 18v one too though. It can't be too hard to crush grains.
     
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    BansheeRider

    Well-Known Member

    Posted Nov 30, 2013
    You think I should wait and see what kind of sales cyber Monday has? I was going to order one today but maybe I should wait a couple days.
     
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    Goldenboy

    Well-Known Member

    Posted Nov 30, 2013
    That's exactly what I'm doing. Should be able to find some kind of deal I would think.
     
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