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My First All Grain

Discussion in 'Beginners Beer Brewing Forum' started by StateRoad84, Apr 26, 2017.

 

  1. #1
    StateRoad84

    Active Member

    Posted Apr 26, 2017
    Alright, I don't know if I am doing this to soon, but WTH. I just finished bottling my second batch and it is a extract kit, my first (turned out and tastes very good!) was an extract w/specialty grain. Now I am jumping right into AG and it is not a kit...am I going to fast?

    Anyway, I received my order for two grain bills from Michigan Brew Supply. They were very fast and the reason I went with them is 1 their selection and 2 they offer by the ounce which is important to me since I will be doing 1.25 gallon batches. I am using Brewtarget for my software and have come up with some recipes, these are the first two I picked to start this long and winding road. Which one should I do first? I do not have a traditional cooler mash tun YET, so I am mashing stove top and lautering/sparging through a 10 inch strainer.

    Cream Ale

    Estimated OG: 1.050
    Estimated FG: 1.012
    Estimated ABV: 5.2
    Estimated IBU: 18.3
    Estimated SRM: 4.5
    60 Min Boil
    1.25 gallon batch size

    1.69 lb Briess 2-Row Brewers Malt
    7 oz Flaked Corn
    4 oz Briess Caramel Crystal 10L Malt
    4 oz Briess Carapils Dextrine Malt
    .07 oz Northern Brewer (60 min)
    .09 oz Northern Brewer (30 min)
    Safale US-05 Yeast

    Single step infusion for 60 min @ 152 F

    Smash Style Beer

    Estimated OG: 1.053
    Estimated FG: 1.012
    Estimated ABV: 5.5
    Estimated IBU: 31.6
    Estimated SRM: 5.3
    60 Min Boil
    1.25 gallon batch size

    2.75 lb Maris Otter
    .170 oz Cascade (60 min)
    .240 oz Cascade (10 min)
    .240 oz Cascade (1 min)
    Safale US-05 Yeast

    Single step infusion for 60 min @ 152 F
     
  2. #2
    bleme

    Well-Known Member

    Posted Apr 27, 2017
    I'd say you are definitely not going too fast. Once you get comfortable with the process, I can see you doing 3 of those small batches at once with no problem.

    I can see room for improvement in 2 of the things you mention. First, is controlling the mash temperature. You might try putting your mash in a oven preheated to 170F then turned off to keep your temperature steady. Or, you could fashion some insulation for your pot with Reflectix.

    The other issue is filtering/lautering. A paint strainer bag will give you much cleaner wort than your strainer. Even better would be a bag made from polyester voile, like wilserbrewers bags.
     
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  3. #3
    bajaedition

    Well-Known Member

    Posted Apr 27, 2017
    killer
    you made the step
    I hope you learned ll about yeast, grains and water while extracting and can bring that into the all grain world
    if not, you still have some to learn and do not forget to study it

    Now is the time to fully take detailed notes, to compare back to
    your world just opened up like seing the sky the first time
     
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  4. #4
    Sammy86

    Still thirsty  

    Posted Apr 27, 2017
    There is no such thing as moving too fast in brewing! My first batch was AG...good luck and keep brewing!

    :mug:
     
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  5. #5
    RM-MN

    Supporting Member  

    Posted Apr 27, 2017
    Get a paint strainer bag and learn about BIAB and you may never get a cooler mash tun. Get a Corona grain mill and you may not need to worry overmuch about keeping the temperature stable for the hour long mash because if you mill fine it will be over long before that.
     
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  6. #6
    Jtk78

    I'm here for the beer!

    Posted Apr 27, 2017
    Congrats on jumping in. After my 3rd batch (mini-mash), I built a mash tun and HLT and went all grain. If your going to stay on the stove, I would suggest looking at BIAB.
     
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  7. #7
    ericbw

    Well-Known Member

    Posted Apr 27, 2017
    No one answered your other question. I say do the smash first.
     
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  8. #8
    StateRoad84

    Active Member

    Posted Apr 27, 2017
    bleme, thanks for the suggestion to use the oven for temp keeping. I figure if I set it to warm and then shut it off it should hold the temp of the mash pot within a couple degrees. I have a 2 gallon igloo cooler that I am going to use for a mash tun. My local Lowes has the fittings I need to convert it, I am also going to get another 2 gallon cooler to use as an HLT. That is the route I would like to go, but I will also consider BIAB. I am learning a lot about yeast, grain, hops and water. I am trying to keep things simple right now and focus on the processes. I am using bottled water right now as I have some plumbing work to do ahead of my water softener and then send in a sample to Ward. I am considering going with distilled water and adjusting with salts for specific profiles????
     
  9. #9
    StateRoad84

    Active Member

    Posted Apr 27, 2017
    My first two were hop forward. My wife wants a malt forward, so I have to go with the Cream Ale. "Happy Wife, Happy Life":)
     
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  10. #10
    bleme

    Well-Known Member

    Posted Apr 27, 2017
    Even with a cooler mash tun, I think polyester voile makes a better filter than the stainless options. It filters finer so there are less floaties in your wort and the increased surface area makes stuck sparges impossible.

    EXAMPLE
     
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  11. #11
    troglodytes

    Well-Known Member

    Posted Apr 27, 2017
    Awesome, go for the cream ale. One thing to keep in mind, though, is that there isn't too much leeway with a simple recipe like that, so any off flavor will be very hard to hide. Don't be discouraged if your version doesn't come out as good as a lot of commercially available ones. I've been brewing for years and my most recent brew of the Centennial Blonde still came out with a few issues.
     
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  12. #12
    bajaedition

    Well-Known Member

    Posted Apr 27, 2017
    there is much to learn, it is like becoming a chef, you must learn your individual ingredients and how they affect a beer.
    the SMaSH brewing style is a great way to do that.
    I tried to brew a different style each time when I stated so I had littel to compare to from beer to beer, that is why the SMaSH method is so good, you have 1 malt and 1 hop and you learn those flavors, that is info you just cannot read, it is on your tongue forever.

    good luck
     
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  13. #13
    StateRoad84

    Active Member

    Posted Apr 27, 2017
    Awesome brew day! I hit all my SG targets within 2 points. Brewtarget said my pre-boil SG should be 1.032, actual was 1.033. Brewtarget said my OG should be 1.050, actual was 1.051. As long as I did everything right and my ferment temp can stay constant I should have a pretty good result...fingers crossed:)
     
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  14. #14
    StateRoad84

    Active Member

    Posted May 6, 2017
    Update.
    Pulled an FG sample (first sample) at 9 days: 1.012. I'm gonna pull another on Tuesday and bottle on Thursday, which will be 14 days. Starting to settle and clear a little. Oh, and more importantly...it tastes really good!:):):D:mug:
     
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  15. #15
    seabrew8

    Well-Known Member

    Posted May 7, 2017
    Good luck, in my opinion all grain is superior to extract beer.
     
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