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My first AG brew - advice is needed!

Discussion in 'All Grain & Partial Mash Brewing' started by bredstein, Oct 27, 2012.

 

  1. #1
    bredstein

    Well-Known Member

    Posted Oct 27, 2012
    I will be brewing my first AG beer (nut brown) next weekend, and I need some advice with the volumes. I have a recipy which calls for 11.75 lbs of grain (total). Mash volume is 14.69 qt. I doubt that my 5 gal cooler is big enough for it. Upgrading to a 10 gal cooler is not an option for now. I know that some people (including Papazian) are talking about 1 qt to 1 lb ratio, and this recipy requires more water. So what if I reduce these 14.69 qt to 3 or even 2.5 gal? What will it change? Also, based on your experience, what is the maximum grain weight a 5 gal cooler can take?
     
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    Yooper

    Ale's What Cures You! Staff Member  

    Posted Oct 27, 2012
    I got 11 pounds of grain in my 5 gallon round igloo cooler, with a mash ratio of 1.25 quarts of water per pound of grain. That would take up about 4.75 gallons of space, so stirring is tricky when it gets full!
     
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    Brulosopher

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    Posted Oct 27, 2012
    Just fill it up until you run out of space then sparge with whatever's left. If you batch sparge, you might have to do 3 runoffs, which isn't a big deal. Cheers!!
     
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    bredstein

    Well-Known Member

    Posted Oct 27, 2012
    Yes, 14.69/11.75 is exactly a 1.25 ratio. Now I wonder what is better - keep the grain volume and reduce water, or keep the 1.25 ratio? Overall, what is the difference between 0.75, 1, 1.25 and 1.5 (2?) ratios?
     
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    Brulosopher

    Well-Known Member

    Posted Oct 27, 2012
    Batch or fly sparge?
     
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    bredstein

    Well-Known Member

    Posted Oct 27, 2012
    You mean I can split the sparge water into several volumes? The recipy says it has to be 4.21 gal. I would rather go with an easier batch sparge, but I couldn't figure out how to fit all this water in my 5 gal cooler, so I started thinking about making a sparge arm...
     
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    Brulosopher

    Well-Known Member

    Posted Oct 27, 2012
    When using the batch sparge method, water:grist ratio isn't really important. Yes, you can absolutely split your sparge volumes without ill effect. I'd recommend...

    1. Fill your MLT with strike water about 5F higher than it needs to be to preheat your tun. Also, leave a little water behind just so you're not too full.

    2. Once strike temp is reached, dough in, stir well, complete your mash process.

    3. After mash is complete, completely drain your MLT then complete your first "sparge." If you can't fit all the sparge water in the MLT, after you start your second runoff, gently ladle whatever didn't fit onto the grains while you're collecting your second runnings. Voila!

    And don't fret about it, you will certainly make beer! Be sure to pitch a healthy starter and watch those ferment temps... that's where the magic's at.
     
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    TrubDog

    Well-Known Member

    Posted Oct 29, 2012
    I have a 5 gallon Rubbermaid MT as well as a larger MT. 14 lbs is about the max for a 5 gallon MT. You'll be fine with only 11.75 lbs of grain. After doughing in I would level off the water to about 1" from the top.
     
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    bredstein

    Well-Known Member

    Posted Oct 29, 2012
    Thank you guys for ideas! Cannot wait till the end of the week :)
     
  10. #10
    brewswellwithothers

    Well-Known Member

    Posted Oct 29, 2012
    I've always found these to be helpful. Scroll down to the "Can I mash it?" area to answer your questions about how much fits in a 5 Gallon.
    Green Bay Rackers Mash Calculators
     
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