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My experience: decoctions are always worth it.

Discussion in 'General Homebrew Discussion' started by fredthecat, Jun 30, 2014.

 

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    fredthecat

    The original homebrewer™.

    Posted Jun 30, 2014
    Out from left field, thought I'd get people's opinions on decoctions. I have seen some anti-decoction viewpoints around the internet, but after tasting my second decoction brew I'm definitely for it.
    The first decoction I did was a technically complex double decoction a long time ago and while I thought the beer was totally great (an alt), I thought the process was a bit too involved to try again readily.

    Never did it again for whatever reason until the second lager I made. Used low quality grain and leftover hops and W34/70 yeast but did a kind of single decoction. I didn't expect much from this beer, it was just kind of to use up leftovers but it's got a creamy, literally everlasting head and just has a professional smoothness to the flavour. Other than the decoction this brew would have been a reject, but it's turned out great.

    I'm going to be doing a lot more decoctions in the future I think. even the single (taking an extra 10 minutes of work time) was completely worth it.
     
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    CadillacAndy

    Well-Known Member

    Posted Jun 30, 2014
    I'm a big fan of doing a mash out decoction. I pull about 6-8 quarts of thick mash when there is about 30 mins left in a 60 minute mash, and boil it for about 20 minutes to develop some color. I then add it back to the main mash and let it sit for a few minutes and start the run off.

    I do find I get a slightly higher efficiency when I do this, but it mainly helps develop a little complexity and an additional light layer of flavor that helps to make things like Munich Dunkels or pilsners that much better. Plus it's time I get to spend interacting with the beer on brew day and helps me stay warm when it's cold out.
     
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    Beernik

    Well-Known Member

    Posted Jun 30, 2014
    I think there is a flavor and a texture that you get with decoction that you don't get anywhere else. Recently, I used it on a Dort. Export and didn't use in in a Vienna lager. The difference is obvious.

    Melanoidin can be used to simulate it. But it taste is different.

    That said, some people prefer the cleaner flavor of a step mash. Some people prefer Melanoidin. I usually don't mind grinding out a decoction mash. I like the resulting beer. Sometimes it seems a bit tedious and i skip it, like with the Vienna lager.
     
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    fredthecat

    The original homebrewer™.

    Posted Jun 30, 2014
    yeah, id like to keep doing a mash out decoction. i have a feeling i've used it at least once but can't remember besides this most recent time.

    i think the flavour is more cohesive (i know that's so general a description), but mainly the body and head quality.
     
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    Cyclman

    I Sell Koalas  

    Posted Jul 1, 2014
    Drinking a double decocted Maibock this evening, delicious.

    Decoctions are fun, they are very cool, and if homebrewing was about being "easy" I'd buy my beer at the store.
     
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    tally350z

    Well-Known Member

    Posted Jul 1, 2014
    Do you do this to most of your beers or are there a few styles you only do this for?
     
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    CadillacAndy

    Well-Known Member

    Posted Jul 1, 2014
    I do mash out decoctions for pretty much anything German, especially the very malty German styles - Oktoberfest, Munich Dunkel, Doppelbock, etc.
     
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