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Mr Beer - Read all about it and ask questions

Discussion in 'Beginners Beer Brewing Forum' started by Orfy, Nov 29, 2007.

 

  1. Irishman78

    Active Member

    Posted Jan 20, 2009
    Recent recipe purchases:

    Voodoo Magic
    2 Hellenbock

    Anyone have any experience with these? Based on the ingredients, they look pretty darn good.

    Question: Are there support groups for homebrew addictions???
     
  2. mambitigre

    Member

    Posted Jan 21, 2009
    hi there , it's me again , but this time i have a question about ingredients , there r a lot of LME and different brands , wich one you guys can recomend to a newby like me ?, i am looking for a Unhopped LME, i found a lot of namebrands like coopers , but there r some generic brands too , r those any good , or should i stick with the namebrands? thanks.
     
  3. Orfy

    For the love of beer!  

    Posted Jan 21, 2009
    Freshness is the most important thing.
    You'd be better asking questions like that in the relevant forum. "Ingredients"
     
  4. cvanbosk

    New Member

    Posted Jan 21, 2009
    Same here. Mr. Beer for Xmas. My first batch was also the High Country Canadian Draft. I fermented for 10 days and it's been in bottles for 13 days. One more day and I'll be tasting it!! The guy at the brew store (and others here at the forum) told me that using regular table sugar would be a huge mistake - and sold me some corn sugar for priming. So I primed half of my bottles with the corn sugar (dextrose) and the other half with the table sugar (sucrose). We'll see.

    Another question: Exactly what kind of beer is High Country Canadian Draft? I gave a bottle of the stuff to a much more experienced homebrew friend, and after telling me that it looked like water, asked me what kind of beer it was. I had no reply.
     
  5. nosmatt

    Well-Known Member

    Posted Jan 21, 2009
    guys, if i can make a suggestion. before bottling, if you have room in your fridge, stick the whole fermenter in the fridge for a week, after it has been sitting for three @ 63-68*. it really makes a difference.
     
  6. Irishman78

    Active Member

    Posted Jan 21, 2009
    Just got lucky and found corn sugar at a local health store. Saves me the time and shipping costs of ordering via Internet.
     
  7. Irishman78

    Active Member

    Posted Jan 23, 2009
    I am reading conflicting opinions on what makes a Mr. Beer taste "cidery", so I want to ask the folks I have read a lot (Orfy, Shaffer, Revvy, brauhaus, etc. for advice.

    I have purchased 2 lbs. of corn sugar, based on advice from this site. I have began purchasing refills from Mr. Beer that have UME's instead of Boosters, and I have decided to substitute a 2nd can of malt extract to replace the Booster for the refills I already have.

    So, veterans, please advise someone who is desperate to conquer Mr. Beer and then upgrade to better equipment.
     
  8. Orfy

    For the love of beer!  

    Posted Jan 23, 2009
    That will do it. Add malt instead of sugar.
    Some sugar is not bad for a recipe, some recipes are improved by it. But it must be in proportion.Until you get used to recipe formulation I'd stick with 1Lb max for a 5 gallon beer and 0.5Lb for 2.5 Gallon.
    The easiest way is to buy bags of DME and use DME instead of the booster/sugar
     
  9. Irishman78

    Active Member

    Posted Jan 24, 2009
    Starting "2 Hellenbock" tomorrow, with ingredients as follows:

    1 can Octoberfest Vienna Lager
    1 can Pale Export UME
    1 packet Mr. Beer yeast
    2 packets Argentine Cascade Hops
    2 cups honey

    So...how long to ferment (Mr. Beer suggests 2 weeks minimum), and how long to carbonate/condition (Mr. Beer suggests 2 months minimum). Advice?
     
  10. MFDave

    Well-Known Member

    Posted Jan 24, 2009
    I got some apfelwein going right now in my Mr. Beer and I have a small concern. I was moving it over in my closet the other day and I kind of squeezed it and it made a sound like it sucked in air. Kind of like when a squeeze-toy inflates again. Should I be worried about any kind of contamination?
     
  11. Henny

    Well-Known Member

    Posted Jan 24, 2009
    MFDave, if it has been fermenting for more than 48 hours, I wouldnt worry too much. The ABV should be pretty high already.
     
  12. dogfishandi

    Active Member

    Posted Jan 25, 2009
    Im pretty disappointed in the West Coast Pale Ale. im assuming it sucks because of all the sugar you use to make it. i followed all the directions, fermented for 12 days, bottle conditioned for close to 3.5 weeks and it tastes like apples and champagne. extremely cidery and hardly no carbonation. i thought i might have done something wrong, but a friend of mine brought over some WCPA he brewed in his mr beer. he bottled it in a 1/2 gallon growler and let it condition for about a week and it tasted almost exactly the same as mine. i brewed an all malt porter in my mr beer, so i hope ot comes out better. i bottled a week ago, but when i tasted this one out of the fermenter, it tasted a lot more maltier, but still a little bit cidery.
     
  13. MFDave

    Well-Known Member

    Posted Jan 25, 2009
    Good to know. It's been fermenting for almost two weeks now. I just got paranoid of some airborne contaminate ruining my precious. :D Thanks for the info Henny!
     
  14. beerocd

    Well-Known Member

    Posted Jan 25, 2009
    I've always told people MrBeer is like Cheese Pizza. It's OK but you would have a better pizza by adding toppings, right? Once you freshen up the standard recipes with additional malt extract or steeping grains - then you got a really good beer.

    -OCD
     
  15. dogfishandi

    Active Member

    Posted Jan 25, 2009
    yea, thats basically what i did with my 2nd batch so i got a lot higher hopes for this one.
     
  16. dogfishandi

    Active Member

    Posted Jan 25, 2009
    im sorta want to take back that last comment about the WCPA. i was going on the taste after 2 weeks in the bottle. i just tasted 2 bottles after 3 weeks 1day and they kinda of lost the cidery taste for the most part and definately had some excellant carbonation (i used cooper's carbonation drops when i bottled). it tasted like most of your domestic beers. my father really enjoyed, kept saying how fresh it tasted, mind you his favorite beer is coors light. i guess it just goes to show you patience is the key when it comes to conditioning.
     
  17. Orfy

    For the love of beer!  

    Posted Jan 26, 2009
    Lesson 1. ;)
     
  18. Irishman78

    Active Member

    Posted Jan 27, 2009
    So instead of using corn sugar, use DME? I bought some at my RHBS (Remote Home Brew Store...LOL), so I am ready to go with DME.

    Will I use the same amount as I would dextrose?
     
  19. dogfishandi

    Active Member

    Posted Jan 27, 2009
    im planning on making an IPA using my mr.beer fermenter. i have
    - 3.3lb Amber Malt Extract
    - 2oz. columbus pellet hops
    - 2oz. simcoe pellet hops
    - 7grams Cooper's dry ale yeast.

    i plan on bringing 1 gallon of water to a boil adding my extract, and then boiling for about 45minutes while adding about 3 1/2 oz. of the hops. then im going to fill the fermenter up with 1 gallon of cold water and dump in my wort. im going to put a muslin hop bag over the top of the fermentor while pouring the wort in to get all the ho particles, or should i just use the hop bag while boiling? does all of this sound like a good recipe, im open to any suggestions at all.
     
  20. KerryD

    Well-Known Member

    Posted Jan 27, 2009
    I let mine sit in the Mr Beer for basically a month, in the bottles for two weeks and I've just started refrigeration. I tried one for reference after a day in the fridge. If anything, I'd say it suffered from lack of taste. Carbed very well,(did the corn sugar and water mixed into a bottle bucket.) good mouthfeel, just didn't have much taste. No hops at all, reminded me of a Miller lite. Yeah, that's about as suck ass as it tasting like cider, but I wonder if the difference isn't fermentation time or bottling sugar or both. At least it's beer.... more or less tasteless beer, but no hints of anything other than beer.
     
  21. llazy_llama

    Well-Known Member

    Posted Jan 27, 2009
    A quick question for KerryD (or anyone else who's added corn sugar into the fermenter for bottling): How did you mix the corn sugar without disturbing the trub, or did you just wait for it to settle again before bottling? Seems like this method could introduce a lot more gunk into the bottles than is necessary.

    Glad to hear your beer turned out okay though, even if it's a bit lacking in the taste department. I expect to get beer from my kit, not necessarily good beer.
     
  22. Pogo

    Well-Known Member

    Posted Jan 27, 2009
    Hey Irishman78 -

    I just happened across an ad in the Sept/08 Southern Brew News for a brewery (micro, probably) in Montgomery.

    Montgomery Brewing
    12 W. Jefferson Street

    (334)834-2739

    If they don't offer ingredients/equipment themselves, they, of all people, would surely know if there is a LHBS in your town.

    Pogo
     
  23. Irishman78

    Active Member

    Posted Jan 27, 2009
    Pogo,

    The Montgomery Brew Pub is an awesome restuarant and bar, and their homemade brews are quite good. They really have honed in on their trade since they opened several years ago.

    I have not thought to ask them about ingredients or supplies, but that is a good idea. As far as a LHBS goes, my homebrew buddy found a website that listed them by state, and the closest it listed was Alabrew in Birmingham. Went there last Saturday and bought some stuff, and the owner directed me to a guy who lives here in Montgomery who has a "brew club" type thing going, so I am going to check that out. He should have great advice as to the best way to get supplies.

    Glad to see the Montgomery Brew Pub made the Southern Brew News! Thanks for the help!

    Oh and also, we have already began thinking "big boy" equipment. We want to get a few more Mr. Beer batches going to get used to the new hobby, but by Spring we hope to be "moving on up"!
     
  24. KerryD

    Well-Known Member

    Posted Jan 27, 2009
    I should have been more specific. I did a mix and poured it into a bottling bucket then added the MR. Beer. I used tubing to ease the aeration issue. I think 5/8"s is close... you'll need a clamp.

    Yeah, it's not too bad. I think the wife will drink it even if it stays like it is now.
     
  25. llazy_llama

    Well-Known Member

    Posted Jan 27, 2009
    Ah, makes more sense now. Thank you.

    Here's to the hope my tax return comes in quick so I can buy some real equipment! :mug:
     
  26. Irishman78

    Active Member

    Posted Jan 28, 2009
    Made a batch of Voodoo Magic, which called for one can of LME, one of UME, and one cup of light brown sugar. Used LHBS-bought yeast packet, which was noticeably more than the Mr. Beer packet. After 3 days fermenting, there is a ton of krauten (sp?) on top, but I guess that is normal for 2 cans and a cup of brown sugar? This thing is bubbling up like crazy. Anyway, I have a stick-on thermometer which is reading about 70 degrees, so I assume I am okay and it is still early.
     
  27. Thumper

    Well-Known Member

    Posted Jan 28, 2009
    Sounds normal to me. Sounds like a good fermentation going on. How long are you thinking of leaving it in the fermentor?
     
  28. Irishman78

    Active Member

    Posted Jan 28, 2009
    I was thinking two weeks, but ultimately I will bottle when I see that fermentation has stopped, based on what I see or don't see floating on top.

    It was kind of exciting to see that much fermentation going on, as this is really the first real "recipe" I have brewed using Mr. Beer ingredients. The other one I have brewing is the standard 1st time WCPA, and after 11 days fermentation looks to be done.
     
  29. Thumper

    Well-Known Member

    Posted Jan 28, 2009
    Irishman,
    I left my WCPS in for 3 weeks, based on information I learned from this sight. It has been in the bottles for almost 3 weeks. May try one this weekend. Fermentation was done before that, but I wanted to let the yeasties clean up a little after theirselves.

    Cheers,
     
  30. Irishman78

    Active Member

    Posted Jan 28, 2009
    I may go an extra week, but to be honest, I am wanting to free up the fermenter for another, better batch... I definitely plan to leave it in the bottles for at least 3 weeks, and then maybe try 1-2 bottles each week after that. I have read on here that is a good way to see how conditioning improves the taste.
     
  31. mambitigre

    Member

    Posted Jan 28, 2009
    hi there , i try one of the beers from my first batch after two weeks on the bottles , but there is just a little carbonation , and no foam retencion , is this the way it is ? what i did wrong , i still have 6 more bottles should i let them sit for 1 more week ? thanks for your help !!!
     
  32. Pogo

    Well-Known Member

    Posted Jan 29, 2009
    Hey mambitgre -

    Give up a little more information.

    Did you follow the kits instructions exactly?

    Or, did you modify the instructions as per the advice on the forum here?

    Did you use a bottling bucket? If so, how much sugar did you add to the bucket?

    Or, did you add sugar (or carb tabs) directly to the bottles before you filled them with beer, and capped them? If so, how much sugar did you add to each bottle? Also, what size bottles did you use?

    And, what temperature have you been conditioning the bottled beers at?

    Pogo
     
  33. mambitigre

    Member

    Posted Jan 29, 2009
    yes i follow the instructions in the kit , the bottles r the ones included in the kit , PET 1 litter , i added 2 1/2 tsps of sugar to each bottle , i let them sit for almost two weeks at 74-76 F (we had a cold front last week and lastted for 3 days it when down to 63-65) , the bottles r rock hard , thanks for your prompt answer!!!!
     
  34. Pogo

    Well-Known Member

    Posted Jan 29, 2009
    Wow...2.5 tsps. per 1 liter bottle!

    I've used a level 1/2 tsp. per 12 ounce bottle before, and it seemed perfect.

    I'm thinking that 1.5 tsps. would be about right for a 1 liter bottle.

    If they are rock hard now, one more week should be plenty of time. You may get a lot of spewing when you crack the seal though!

    Keep us posted.

    Pogo
     
  35. Thumper

    Well-Known Member

    Posted Jan 29, 2009
    I can't remember the instructions for MB in my head, but 2.5 tsp. sound right. It calls for table sugar, so it should be all right.
     
  36. Irishman78

    Active Member

    Posted Jan 29, 2009
    Hey Thumper,

    I'm sure this is already on this thread somewhere, but for the sake of getting a quicker answer, here goes.

    2.5 tsp of table sugar is what Mr. Beer recommends for their 1 liter PET bottles, but if I am using corn sugar and 12 oz glass bottles, what would you recommend?
     
  37. Irishman78

    Active Member

    Posted Jan 29, 2009
    I just noticed that Pogo uses 1/2 tsp for 12 oz bottles. I should have reread that post.

    :mug:
     
  38. dogfishandi

    Active Member

    Posted Jan 30, 2009
    my first mr beer was the same way, i used carb tabs in 12 oz bottles and i tried my first WCPA after 2 weeks. it had very little carbonation, almost no head and had a real bad cidery taste to it. i let them condition for about another week and a few days and shook them up a little every couple of days and when i opened one, it actually had great carbonation, lost the cidery taste almost completely and had an alright head to it. however, if you brewed the WCPA, dont expect it to be much of a pale ale. its a very light beer and reminds me of a macro. but its still beer and it goes down really easy. and youll definately enjoy it seeing as how you made it. have patience and just set some aside for even a couple more weeks. they can only get better
     
  39. llazy_llama

    Well-Known Member

    Posted Jan 30, 2009
    Couldn't think of a better place to post this than here, so here goes. My first HB batch isn't even out of the Mr Beer and into the bottle yet, and I've just ordered $250 worth of starter supplies from Midwest.

    Honestly, if that WCPA starter kit comes out tasting like BMC, I'll consider it a success. If it comes out tasting like cider, I'll know what to do. If it comes out tasting like crap, I'll have expected it and will consider it a learning experience.

    Thanks to all the folks at HBT for facilitating my new addiction.
     
  40. MassMark

    Member

    Posted Jan 30, 2009
    Well I have to say, I'm impressed with my Mr. Beer and it has sparked a desire to brew more. I'm going to do another batch soon and in the Summer, my father is giving me all of his old brewing equipment. He used to make some impressive brews - especially Lagers and Stouts, but stopped a few years ago. Hopefully, he'll share a few of his recipes - he was very much into tweaking recipes.

    My kit came with a Cowboy Lager and I tweaked it myself by adding a cup of Tyringham maple syrup to the mix. I was told on another site that maple syrup was a bad idea, (sounded good to me), but I must have dodged a bullet, because the beer is absolutely fantastic...It still needs some time in the fridge to settle some more, (another 2-weeks). It's still in a cooler sitting next to my furnace and it's hitting the fridge next Thursday. I started this on December 25th....

    The one thing I have to work out is temperature control, as I live in a circa 1750 farm house on the side of a mountain. I kept the keg wrapped in sleeping bags near my furnace while it fermented and had a remote thermometer in with it. The temperature stayed surprisingly consistent with basement temps at 53-56 degrees and keg temperatures varying in the 67-degree scale. This was below the recommended temps, but infrequent checks of the keg showed activity, so I let it ride.

    I may be wrong here, (I'm such a newbie), but I think time was my friend with the less than ideal temperatures. I surpassed the instructions recommendations for time in keg and time conditioning before refrigeration. Again, I started this process Christmas Day and bottled on the 15th of January. I'm letting this stuff ride until next Thursday before I refrigerate.

    I had one bottle that I didn't quite fill all the way and I pulled it from the cooler on Monday night and put it in the fridge. It was the last of the keg when I was bottling, so I figured: "what the heck" and made it my sacrificial lamb. Just for the hell of it, I broke it out on Wednesday night and was so relieved to hear the "pshhhhht" sound when I flipped the cap. I poured it slowly into a glass, (the bottom was a tad bit sludgy) and took my first sip....damn! This stuff is good! I mean, really, really good! I must have gotten lucky with the maple syrup, because this beer is tasty...

    Looking forward to my next go round and really getting things going with a more elaborate kit when my father makes it down to storage....[cheers]
     
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