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Most hops you've ever put in a batch of homebrew

Discussion in 'General Homebrew Discussion' started by Bamsdealer, Feb 21, 2013.

 

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    Bamsdealer

    Well-Known Member

    Posted Feb 21, 2013
    Just curious. I have a 5 gallon batch of DIPA on tap that had 4oz of high aa hops added as first wort hops, 6oz in the 0-30 minute range, 3 oz dry hops and 2oz keg hops. That's just shy of a pound. Its truly an amazing beer, but truthfully, I wouldn't be scared to go bigger. The large malt bill and 4 lbs of munich really stands up to them. The level of complexity in the hop profile is amazing. Its layered from the time you open the tap to minutes after you finish the beer.

    Cant wait to try an even bigger ipa next time. Eventually I'll work up to something as big as a 120 minute ipa
     
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    DonMagee

    Well-Known Member

    Posted Feb 21, 2013
    My DIPA recipe had almost a pound of hops in it for a 5 gallon batch. It was about as hoping as I'd ever want a beer to be.

    *Just double checked, it was 12 ounces including 3oz in the dry hop.
     
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    osagedr

    Recovering from Sobriety  

    Posted Feb 21, 2013
    Currently have a 5g batch of DIPA dry hopping on 8 oz (2 each of Citra, Amarillo, Simcoe, Cascade) that had another 16 oz in the kettle.
     
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    Jayhem

    Well-Known Member

    Posted Feb 21, 2013
    Previously about 7 oz in 5 gallons. My next IPA will have 9-10oz in 5 gallons.
     
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    brewguyver

    Member  

    Posted Feb 21, 2013
    Did a Pliney the Younger clone with 14z in 5g (about half was dry hop) plus 6 hop shots in the boil. It's awesome.
     
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    kpr121

    Well-Known Member

    Posted Feb 21, 2013
    Have a Pliny-esque clone that used 28 oz of hops in a 10 gallon batch. Wish I'd have used more honestly.
     
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    WesleyS

    Banned

    Posted Feb 21, 2013
    The most I've used was yesterday. I brewed a 6 gallon batch of Double IPA. I used 13 oz and will dry hop with another 3 oz for a total of 1 lb.
     
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    Bamsdealer

    Well-Known Member

    Posted Feb 21, 2013
    Wow... pound and a half total. Impressive.

    I acutally came up a little short on my volume due to hop loss. At a lb in the kettle i'd definately have to compensate with more wort
     
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    norsk

    Well-Known Member

    Posted Feb 21, 2013
    18-20 oz of 6 different hops in our 10 ABV, 7 gal house IPA. Just finished dry hopping a batch last night. We dry hop 1 oz of 3 different hops every other day times 3-5...
     
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    tikiwargod

    Member

    Posted Feb 21, 2013
    brewed 3.5 gal of IIPA with 1 lb of whole leaf centennial (10.5% A.A.) with 6 in dry hop, unfortunately I overshot the alcohol by 1.5% (total 9.5%ABV) so it came out more balanced then I would have liked.
     
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    Yooper

    Ale's What Cures You! Staff Member  

    Posted Feb 21, 2013
    I've used 16 ounces in 5 gallons, but I don't like to do that if I don't have to. I started buying higher AAU bittering hops, so that I use less for bittering than with a lower AAU hop. But I do tend to load up the late additions on IPAs and IIPAs.
     
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    Bamsdealer

    Well-Known Member

    Posted Feb 21, 2013
    I've been wondering about that. Calculated out, my beer should have come out to several hundred ibus. I know that theres a saturation point where a beer will be as bitter as its going to get in the 120 ibu range. Were my 4 oz of fwh wasted? Would I have gotten the same beer with an ounce and a half of high aau fwh or a bittering addition? If they were just a 60 or 90 minute addition I might agree, but I would like to think I got more than just bitterness from them. Would i have gotten more out of my hops by shifting a portion of my bittering addition to later in the boil? Still experimenting and trying to figure all this out...
     
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    osagedr

    Recovering from Sobriety  

    Posted Feb 21, 2013
    Yes, from what was reciped-out in beersmith as a 6.5 gallon batch will end up with something like 4 in the keg. Live and learn. Pretty interested to see what this tastes like. Basically just a ridiculous competition beer--last year's pound-of-hops IIPA got comments like "lacks the big hop flavour and aroma characteristic of the style." Okay, fockers, we'll try this again!
     
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    weirdboy

    Well-Known Member  

    Posted Feb 21, 2013
    I made a beer with 18oz in 5 gallons. Roughly half in the boil, and half dry-hops.

    Very high gravity IIIPA.
     
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    unionrdr

    Homebrewer, author & air gun shooter  

    Posted Feb 21, 2013
    Geez. And the guys on the Cooper's forums thought I'd lost my sense using 6oz of hops in a 6 gallon batch of my session IPA. But one pound in 5 gallons? That oughta make yer smucker pucker...:drunk:
     
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    Bamsdealer

    Well-Known Member

    Posted Feb 21, 2013
    Whole or pellet? I purposely used pellet figuring I'd lose less volume.

    Funny about the comments from the competition. Even if you didn't get the best extraction you could have, I couldn't imagine them knocking you on lack of hop characteristic. Good luck this time around.
     
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    osagedr

    Recovering from Sobriety  

    Posted Feb 21, 2013
    A few oz of whole, but mostly pellet. A gravity sample out of the primary tasted pretty good (nice and hoppy ;) ). I should rack it off the dry hops, it's been about 10 days. Even though some cloudiness would be okay I think I'll clarify with biofine. Also have an IPA and CDA made the same day dryhopping.
     
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    Yooper

    Ale's What Cures You! Staff Member  

    Posted Feb 21, 2013
    Not "wasted"!

    Pliny the Elder calculates out to 200 IBUs +, but it's been tested and it's more like 80 IBUs.

    Still, the IBUs may max out but the flavor of the hops oils is in there, and it makes a difference. How much of a difference, I can't say.
     
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    ocluke

    Well-Known Member

    Posted Feb 21, 2013
    I'd be interested in seeing a total weight of hops to gravity units ratio for these. For example, I've made a 4% ABV session beer with over a pound of hops, and thoroughly enjoyed it.
     
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    bwarbiany

    Supporting Member  

    Posted Feb 21, 2013
    28 oz in ~15 gallons (likely slightly smaller as we undershot volume on the batch).

    Works out to 3.6 lb/barrel, or somewhere between Stone Ruination (2.5 #/bbl) and Stone 10th Anniversary Ruination (5 #/bbl).

    *Extremely* hoppy at the start. But due to the maltiness needed to stand up to all those hops, the beer faded too quickly. By the end (~ 5 months after kegging), the sweetness was taking over.

    So the key? Drink 'em fresh!
     
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    bmick

    Well-Known Member

    Posted Feb 21, 2013
    Stan Hieronymus' new "Hops" book has some interesting feedback from brewers about the law of diminishing returns when it comes to things like IBUs and dry hopping. The takeaway is that, at some point, more isn't better, or even adding anything. It's an interesting read if you're looking to nail down a best practice, especially for the cold side additions.
     
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    Bamsdealer

    Well-Known Member

    Posted Feb 21, 2013
    Its on the table at home. Just have to finish his yeast book first!
     
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    Bamsdealer

    Well-Known Member

    Posted Feb 21, 2013
    I think you'd see that most of the crazy hopped beers are higher gravity brews. I could see the hops standing out more in a low gravity beer. You wouldn't have a bunch of sweetness or booze getting in the way and you would get better utilization from the boil.
     
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    Monster Mash

    Well-Known Member

    Posted Feb 21, 2013
    I just brewed a batch last weekend that used 3 pounds of hops, 2 in the kettle and 1 more pound for dry hopping. This was a 25 gallon batch of Black Rye IIPA with 85 IBU's.
     
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    L1truckie

    Active Member

    Posted Feb 21, 2013
    My highest out the ordinary beer...5 ounces in the the boil and 1 ounce dry hop for an American Wheat :rockin: Think about that for a while you hopheads :mug: I was looking to brew something close to Three Floyds Gumball Head and came up with that.
     
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    thood6

    Well-Known Member

    Posted Feb 22, 2013
    How'd it turn out?
     
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    L1truckie

    Active Member

    Posted Feb 22, 2013
    It was hop bomb for sure! Drinkable....However, after tweaking this recipe Im now at .5 oz first wort, 3 oz in the boil and 1.5 oz dry... Ive scaled it back and redistributed the hops, much better and closer to Three Floyds gumball....Its a beer now, not a hop bomb ;)
     
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    rexbanner

    Well-Known Member

    Posted Feb 22, 2013
    A pound of fresh hops (cascade) from my hops garden in a DIPA. Don't ever do this, it tasted terrible.
     
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    BlackRock

    Well-Known Member

    Posted Feb 22, 2013
    10 ounces in a Black Rye IPA. 8oz were added to the boil and 2oz were. OG was just over 70pts and final ABV was 7.35 with an IBU rating of 165... (Based on Hopville.com's calculations).

    Tasted excellent. The hops tasted more like something in the 60 IBU range probably because there was so much malt flavor.
     
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    Bamsdealer

    Well-Known Member

    Posted Feb 22, 2013
    I did an all cascade pale ale and it literally tasted like grapefruit. Not bad but it just didnt have much complexity. Those hops came in a ziploc bag from Victory though
     
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    rexbanner

    Well-Known Member

    Posted Feb 22, 2013
    I like cascade and agree that it lacks complexity, I just meant all fresh hops. It gets a really strong vegetable/tobacco taste that ruined the entire beer. You've got to go easy on the fresh hops, apparently. I'm going to release a fresh hop IIPA next year at my nano, and do it right. Half fresh hops, and no dry hop fresh hop. Calling it Force of Nature.
     
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    Bamsdealer

    Well-Known Member

    Posted Feb 22, 2013
    gotcha. I love me some wet hopped beer, but I have no idea on the ratio of wet to dry hopped additions or when to add them. I know for bittering, you have to use a lot more due to the water weight in the fresh version... but that's about it
     
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