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mashing less grain

Discussion in 'All Grain & Partial Mash Brewing' started by JLem, May 23, 2012.

 

  1. #1
    JLem

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    Posted May 23, 2012
    I'm thinking of brewing a braggot, getting ~50% of my fermentables from honey. I'd like to only hit an OG in the 1.050-1.060 range, so I only need to get about 25-30 points from my grain. This means I'll only need about half as much grain as I would normally use.

    My MLT is a converted 5 gallon cooler.

    Will it be possible to run a small mash with my standard equipment and process? Anything I need to be concerned about?

    My other option would be to increase the amount of grain and run a no-sparge mash. I just hate to "waste" the grain by not taking the second runnings.
     
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    Slainte-brew

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    Posted May 23, 2012
    What is your grain bill? what about a no sparge for your braggot and then make a partigyle session from the second runnings. 10 gallons from 1 brew session. you might have to up your grain a little.
     
  3. #3
    JLem

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    Posted May 23, 2012
    I don't have the grain bill set yet - still working on a recipe.

    as for the no sparge: I don't think there will be enough grain for a whole beer from the 2nd runnings. If I plan on getting 25-30 points from the 1st runnings, how much could I expect to get from the 2nd runnings? I can't imagine it is enough to make even a mild.
     
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    Gwitz

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    Posted May 23, 2012
    So you will be mashing 5-6 lbs of grain in a 5 gallon cooler? No problem, i run 10lbs of grain in my 13 gallon keg mashtun for my 5 gallon experimental batches. I just wouldnt run a full volume sparge through that much grain, might extract tannins and what not.
     
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    tre9er

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    Posted May 23, 2012
    I would put it into recipe software and see what it says. Should be able to do a small mash and rather than sparge with all of the remaining water, just use some for one small batch sparge and add the rest to the kettle.
     
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    Slainte-brew

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    Posted May 23, 2012
    Yes you are right, you might have to up your grain bill. I wrote that backwards also last night. Use your first runnings for a different beer and second for the braggot. If you go for around 40-50 for your bill, and do a 50-50 split you would get around a 60 point from first and 30 point from second running. I read that you have a 5 gal MLT, you could fit 8-10 lbs depending on your qt to lb ratio

    I agree with previous posters about not a full sparge. 1 i dont think you will need it and 2 you might get stuff you dont want.
     
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    dcp27

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    Posted May 23, 2012
    why not do the reverse and use 2nd runnings to make the braggot?
     
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    tre9er

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    Posted May 23, 2012
    I think SlainteBrew is saying to do a full mash, make a beer from that, and then take 2nd runnings and add to the extract for the original beer the OP was talking about.
     
  9. #9
    JLem

    Well-Known Member

    Posted May 24, 2012
    Of course!! That makes perfect sense and I think this should work perfectly well on my system. Thanks! :mug:
     
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