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Making cider without a press

Discussion in 'Cider Forum' started by wildozarkwine, Aug 4, 2015.

 

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    wildozarkwine

    Well-Known Member

    Posted Aug 4, 2015
    I had a friend give me 2, 5 gal buckets of Granny Smith apples last weekend and I want to make her some cider. I have never made cider and do not have access to a press. I have been making wine for many years by fermenting on the fruit and then squeezing the fruit in a straining bag to separate the pulp from thr wine. Would this method work for cider also? Should I run the apples through a food processor to grind them first?
     
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    TandemTails

    Well-Known Member

    Posted Aug 5, 2015
    I'm about to do the same and I'm searching craigslist for cheap juicers rather than spending $300 on a cider press and then having to find somewhere to store it.

    One thing I've read repeatedly is that you don't need to remove the cores, but you should remove the stems to avoid any extra bitterness.

    Also, I'm not sure how big of a batch you're planning on making but I've read that it takes about 84lbs of apples to produce enough cider for a 5 gallon batch.
     
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    Jwin

    Well-Known Member

    Posted Aug 5, 2015
    yeah, makes you wonder when angry orchard advertises "2 apples go into every bottle of angry orchard"

    Must be big apples
     
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    Yooper

    Ale's What Cures You! Staff Member  

    Posted Aug 5, 2015
    I used to always do it "the redneck" way until I got a press. That is, freeze the apples (so when they thaw they are easier to smash up), and then smash them by hand. I put them in big mesh bags (from winemaking stores) and then left them in the fermenter with some pectic enzyme and some campden (to kill wild yeast and bacteria) and then added some yeast to it. After a few days, I santized my hands and squeezed my heart out. I will admit that a press is so much easier!

    I've seen cheap "bucket in a bucket" homemade presses, and that is one way to do it, as well as using a bucket and a hydraulic jack. There are lots of ways to go about doing it, but it's much easier with a press.

    I think I use about 20 pounds of apples or so for a gallon of fresh cider.
     
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    WVMJ

    Well-Known Member

    Posted Aug 5, 2015
    Straight cider from Grannys going to be a little rough, lots of sugar but so much acid, you might be better off making applesauce with them and finding a good source of fresh cider at a local orchard if you have any in your area or just making some from storebought cider, we wouldnt want your first batch of cider to be horrible and turn you away from it :) WVMJ
     
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    wildozarkwine

    Well-Known Member

    Posted Aug 5, 2015
    I will probably buy some juice and add to the apples or just use juice for the cider and make some apple wine from the apples.
     
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    Peruvian802

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    Posted Aug 5, 2015
    Have you considered making a press? I used scrap wood for mine and have been using it for years.

    Mine is a bit larger and more complicated but this shows how easy it can be - [ame]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1Ufd3i0H37s[/ame]
     
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    Homercidal

    Licensed Sensual Massage Therapist.  

    Posted Aug 5, 2015
    I have plans to build a press. I've had those plans for years. Each summer I don't get around to it and only get the urge to build it when it's too late.

    My plans are similar to the one above, but I planned to bolt the 2x4 and 4x4 pieces together to make a frame, and I have a hydraulic bottle jack (like $20 at harbor freight) instead of a scissor jack (which would work fine too!)

    Wrap the pulp in a mesh of some sort and squeeze. Some places stack a few bags on top of each other with boards in between to be more efficient.
     
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    Jwin

    Well-Known Member

    Posted Aug 5, 2015
    I've seen them stacked as well but wil circles of cutting board material with 1-2 inch holes in them between, so the pressure is equally distributed
     
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    MtnGoatJoe

    Well-Known Member

    Posted Aug 5, 2015
    I asked everybody I know for a juicer. It took a while, but I finally found someone.

    I'm sure it will be a slow process, but I'm going to juice 20 pounds tonight. I'm only making a few gallons this year, so getting a press hasn't been a priority. Maybe next year or the year after.
     
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    wildozarkwine

    Well-Known Member

    Posted Aug 6, 2015
    I have been thiking about making a screw press, I have most of the materials but am short on time, maybe this winter I will get it done.
     
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    phug

    Well-Known Member

    Posted Aug 6, 2015
    go easy on the juicer and don't burn out the motor by working it too hard for too long.
     
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    MtnGoatJoe

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    Posted Aug 6, 2015
    I didn't burn out the motor.

    It took two of us about 2 hours (including cleanup) to juice 24 pounds. That came out to about 1.25 gallons of juice. Cutting out the junk was the most time consuming part.

    I've never juiced before, so I didn't know about the foam. I'll have to siphon out the juice tonight after it settles a bit.

    The pulp bin was quite full, but the juice is very red. I suspect that's from the peels, but I don't know.

    The juice has a nice sweet/tart taste to it. I think we got a few that weren't ripe. For this tree, it's probably best to use drops. The drops seemed to be a lot sweeter than the picked ones.

    Anyway, this whole thing has emphasized that I need a press.
     
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