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Low ABV A/IPA help

Discussion in 'All Grain & Partial Mash Brewing' started by radpotato, Jun 8, 2016.

 

  1. #1
    radpotato

    Member

    Posted Jun 8, 2016
    Hi all,
    I want to brew a low ABV beer for my dad who loves ale, especially APAs, but for medical reasons cannot drink too much alcohol! I've been inspired by a couple of threads, in particular the mad fermentationist recipe here: http://www.themadfermentationist.com/2012/01/vienna-malt-session-ipa-recipe.html and so have adjusted the malt profile and yeast significantly from a typical APA. Perhaps this is straying too far into the mini-IPA territory, but comments on the recipe (as in, any obvious bad ideas) welcome:

    35L batch, all grain
    2.2 kg (46.3%) Maris Otter
    2.2 kg (46.3%) Vienna
    0.25 kg (5.3%) Dark Crystal (90L)
    0.1 kg (2.1%) Aromatic

    Will add all hops late:
    ~8 AAU citra, ~4 AAU cascade (15g each) @ 15 mins
    ~8 AAU citra, ~4 AAU cascade (20g each) @ 10 mins
    50g each citra / cascade whirlpool
    50g each citra / cascade dry hop

    S-04 yeast.

    BrewToad (god, sometimes BrewToad is so frustrating - the OG/IBU change when I save the recipe vs editing) has me at around 1.03 OG and 24 IBU.

    Does this sound like too many mixed up styles?

    Cheers!
     
  2. #2
    didinho

    Well-Known Member

    Posted Jun 9, 2016
    there are overlaps between session IPA and APA, it's normal to mix up similar styles...
     
  3. #3
    radpotato

    Member

    Posted Jun 9, 2016
    I guess I meant too much going on not just with the APA / IPA crossover, but the low ABV, the aromatic and vienna malts, and the english yeast.
     
  4. #4
    PorterHoarder

    Member

    Posted Jun 10, 2016
    The nice thing about brewing is that styles are open to interpretation and fit loosely into their respective categories. I think your recipe looks great. I will say that you can never go wrong with carapils or oats (or a combination of the two) to bring out the malt character and mouth feel, coupled with a medium-meduim high mash temp. As far as crossing over, if by APA you mean an American Pale Ale then you are far from it. Definitely a traditional English Pale Ale is what you're brewing. But either way I think you're looking at a tasty and sessionable brew! Cheers!
     
  5. #5
    radpotato

    Member

    Posted Jun 10, 2016
    So I went ahead and brewed this yesterday. Missed my target 68C by a degree, mashed at 67 for an hour.

    I brew at an open brewery and buy most my ingredients there; they had no citra in or many other citrus/tropical hops other than mosaic so I subbed that in (17.5g and 25g at 15/10 mins to account for the AA). I did the whirlpool (or is it a hopstand?) for 10 minutes at 89C and also did a shorter than normal boil.

    As I expected, I wasn't very good at predicting my efficiency and/or chiller loss, so collected 33L of wort at 1.036. The wort tasted pretty good, if a touch darker and hazier than expected. Will come back with tasting results when it's finished and conditioned.
     
  6. #6
    kristiismean

    Well-Known Member

    Posted Jun 13, 2016
    Those Mosiac hops should add a different, but welcome taste profile. as far as the others, way beyond my skill level.

    (many of my home creation 1 gallon test batches are citra and/or mosiac hops)
     
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