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Like it in the can? Sierra Nevada to join the ranks of canning craft brews.

Discussion in 'General Homebrew Discussion' started by Revvy, Mar 8, 2011.

 

  1. #1
    Revvy

    Post Hoc Ergo Propter Hoc  

    Posted Mar 8, 2011
    Just showed up on a beerblog on facebook.

     
  2. #2
    IrregularPulse

    Hobby Collector  

    Posted Mar 8, 2011
    Awesome, I was surprised to see how many can offerings were on the shelf when I was at Jungle Jim's in Cincinnati last weekend. I stick to singles when I get the chance to go there so I didn't pick any up, but I hope to see it more in my town. I'm sure we'll have the SNPA in cans. Which is great because it is always my go to for camping.
     
  3. #3
    DemonIAm

    Well-Known Member

    Posted Mar 8, 2011
    Starr Hill is now canning their Festie, and their Northern Lights IPA. I can't wait to find it locally!

    Nothing has been wrong with cans since the early 90s.
     
  4. #4
    stevo155

    Well-Known Member

    Posted Mar 8, 2011
    "Everyone likes it in the can"

    Great news. Now if they could only figure out how to do homebrew canning.
     
  5. #5
    moti_mo

    Well-Known Member

    Posted Mar 8, 2011
    That's good news. It'd be great if Torpedo also made it into the can lineup
     
  6. #6
    wildwest450

    Banned

    Posted Mar 8, 2011
    Woot, now we can build craft beeramids, while camping. Of course it's gonna cost a little more.


    _
     
  7. #7
    MikeMayhem

    Well-Known Member

    Posted Mar 8, 2011
    call me when i can get a 6-pack ring of Pale Ale tall cans :)
     
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    humann_brewing

    More Humann than human  

    Posted Mar 8, 2011
    awesome, just sad it won't be in time for summer at the lake or beach though :(
     
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    r8rphan

    Well-Known Member

    Posted Mar 8, 2011
    Now if Stone would just follow suit..

    And yeah, I'd love to be able to can my homebrew...
    can>bottle
     
  10. #10
    Golddiggie

    Well-Known Member

    Posted Mar 8, 2011
    Sorry, but I don't like 99.995% of my brew from a can. The ONLY exception is Guinness, and the other Irish brews that use the nitrogen widget inside the cans. The bottled version of Guinness just sucks (IMO)...

    I just hope they don't switch entire brews over to just cans. Although, I probably won't care since I'm not buying beer at this point. :D
     
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    CaliBrewin

    Well-Known Member

    Posted Mar 8, 2011
    i second the opinons on Torpedo and Stone.

    mmmm...
     
  12. #12
    jfr1111

    Well-Known Member

    Posted Mar 8, 2011
    Yeah, I like it in the can what does Sierra Nevada has to do with it...

    Wait...

    :D
     
  13. #13
    DemonIAm

    Well-Known Member

    Posted Mar 8, 2011
  14. #14
    r8rphan

    Well-Known Member

    Posted Mar 8, 2011
    cans are essentially mini-kegs.. Sealed better and no light can get in... They're easier to dispose of, easier to handle/redeem, and easier to carry.... easier to stack, and can get more of them in the fridge/cooler...
     
  15. #15
    r8rphan

    Well-Known Member

    Posted Mar 8, 2011
    Well, that's not gonna fit in the bottom of my brew stand...:(
     
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    IffyG

    Well-Known Member

    Posted Mar 8, 2011
    It's all in your head. I had the same mindset until I stumbled across Caldera IPA and Ten Fidy at my local beer store. Try and get the stigma out of your mind and you won't care either.
     
  17. #17
    Golddiggie

    Well-Known Member

    Posted Mar 8, 2011
    It might be partially in my head, but I still won't take it in the can.

    I've had Guinness in bottles, cans, and on tap... Best is often from a properly cleaned/setup tap. Then from the can, poured into a pint glass. The bottles are good if you're looking to cook with it. :eek:
     
  18. #18
    cricky101

    Well-Known Member

    Posted Mar 8, 2011
    I love the Surly brews, and you can only get them in a can (other than Darkness) or on tap.
     
  19. #19
    JuanKenobi

    Well-Known Member

    Posted Mar 8, 2011
    I'm psyched. Nothing wrong with canning. Dale's is one of my favorite commercial beers. It will be interesting to do a side by side comparison. Especially with a beer we all know and love.
     
  20. #20
    aggiejay06

    Well-Known Member

    Posted Mar 8, 2011
    This is awesome...our neighborhood pool allows alcohol...but only in cans. Guiness is the only thing I've seen in a can recently that I have any interest in drinking, but for some reason it just doesn't sound good on a hot summer day! hah

    Only wish the cans were coming out sooner!
     
  21. #21
    Randar

    All your Ninkasi are belong to us  

    Posted Mar 8, 2011
    They will probably sell it in goofy short/stubby/fat cans that defeat all can stacking or storage mechanisms that are otherwise abundant. :D
     
  22. #22
    GodsStepBrother

    Well-Known Member

    Posted Mar 8, 2011
    Santa Fe Brewery has some beers in a can as well. They even talk about it being for hunting and fishing and stuff. However I bought a six pack of an Imperial coffee stout that was at 8% in a can! We got pretty tipsy that day catching fish.
     
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    edgeofblade

    Well-Known Member

    Posted Mar 8, 2011
    Excellent news. I can have some SN Pale next to my Buried Hatchet Stout in the can rack in my mini fridge.
     
  24. #24
    bgrayson726

    Well-Known Member

    Posted Mar 8, 2011
    This is great. I had a chance to meet Ken Grossman about 2 weeks ago and he mentioned this. He said they still were working on developing a can that won't let any bad chemicals get into the beer. He said that even when they get their brand new kegs, it's a pain in the ass because they have to thoroughly clean it prior to filling it to make sure that it won't let out any sort of chemicals. He said that he would have rather gotten used kegs because they are easier to clean correctly.

    Tangent: Sierra Nevada bottle conditioning is really interesting to me. Have you ever had a beer from the same homebrew batch with a little bit more or less carbonation than the other ones? It's probably because there is slightly more or less yeast in that bottle. Sierra Nevada uses open fermenters and open bottle carbonation. They filter out the initial yeast, then add a small controllable amount of yeast to each bottle. Then, they let it ferment for a little bit longer so that the CO2 is in the top of the bottle (CO2 weighs more than O2 obviously so the O2 is pushed out of the top of the bottle). Then the bottle is capped.

    To be honest, this is a much more efficient way of preventing oxygen from getting into the beer. It's probably the most efficient way to remove any chance of oxygen getting into the beer.
     
  25. #25
    Joe_K

    Well-Known Member

    Posted Mar 8, 2011
    Sly Fox cans their Rt 113 IPA. I've sampled many and they are delicious, great for fishing.
     
  26. #26
    Homercidal

    Licensed Sensual Massage Therapist.  

    Posted Mar 8, 2011
    Great for backpacking! Once you get to camp, drink a beer and then build an alcohol stove out of it!
     
  27. #27
    Wetfoot

    Well-Known Member

    Posted Mar 8, 2011
    Oh no, will someone 'shotgun' a SNPA?
     
  28. #28
    Ravio11i

    The Yeast Torturer

    Posted Mar 8, 2011
    Hey if you're gonna shotgun a beer anyway...
     
  29. #29
    Hex

    Well-Known Member

    Posted Mar 8, 2011
    Cans are great for craft beer, woot Sierra Nevada! Now if you'd only can that Best Bitters you serve at your taproom...
     
  30. #30
    lazytaper

    Active Member

    Posted Mar 8, 2011
    I welcome the can revolution! :ban:
     
  31. #31
    two_hearted

    Well-Known Member

    Posted Mar 8, 2011
    Just print "Pour it into a glass, dummy" on the side. Some idiot's going to shotgun a 9% beer without knowing its not a bmc and fall on his ass.
     
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    Rivenin

    Well-Known Member

    Posted Mar 8, 2011
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    buffalobrewer

    Well-Known Member  

    Posted Mar 9, 2011
    snpa on the links!
     
  34. #34
    SkinnyShamrock

    Well-Known Member

    Posted Mar 9, 2011
    Good good good good good GOOD!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    I'm sure you've all heard my rants about bottles, and how they are a creation of Satan.

    Canned beers are awesome. Think about it, we'll use Sierra Nevada as an example. Bottle of 9% Bigfoot barleywine...pretty cool. CAN of 9% barleywine. Way cooler. Oskar Blues Ten Fidy is 5 times awesomer than most imperial stouts, because it comes in a can. Brew Free or Die would just be another forgettable IPA if it didn't come in a can.
     
  35. #35
    humann_brewing

    More Humann than human  

    Posted Mar 9, 2011
    you can go ahead and laugh now

     
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  36. #36
    mpruett

    Well-Known Member

    Posted Mar 9, 2011
    Isn't the Buried Hatchet Stout just awesome? I can't say I've had a stout or porter that gets the balance that perfect. Believe it or not, it's supposedly 50 IBUs, but you'd never notice because it's not a hop-forward brew.

    I'm all for cans. This seems like the beer equivalent of the twist-off vs. synthetic cork vs. natural cork debate in the wine industry. Luckily brewers and beer drinkers seem to be a lot less concerned with pretense and tradition, and more about making/transporting and drinking quality products.

    I don't see many downsides- no light exposure, lighter vessel for less shipping, more room for logos, etc... on the sides of the can, no bottle openers required, cans aren't prohibited most places, they're easily recyclable and they fit easier in a lot of coolers and fridges.

    The only downsides I see are that the canning equipment is likely more expensive, and us homebrewers can't reuse the cans like we can bottles.

    I don't know if an empty can & lid costs more or less than an empty bottle, cap and label, so I won't comment on that.
     
  37. #37
    samc

    Well-Known Member

    Posted Mar 9, 2011
    5 gallon cans for me - corny!
     
  38. #38
    stevo155

    Well-Known Member

    Posted Mar 9, 2011
    Besides, have you ever tried to crush a bottle on your forehead after having a few...it hurts. :)

    I would hope the cost of shipping would be lower to help offset the cost of canning. And if more an more craft breweries go to canning, that would help drive down the cost a bit as well as more canning lines are produced.
     
  39. #39
    metaltim

    Well-Known Member

    Posted Mar 9, 2011
    You linked an article that states the exact opposite of what you just said


    from the wasington post article
    "But better beer in cans is still relatively rare. Of the 446 microbreweries and 990 brew pubs known to be operating in the United States, only about 40 can their beer. Most use equipment from Cask Brewing Systems, a Canadian company that leveled the playing field by offering portable canning lines at prices even the smallest brewery could afford. "
     
  40. #40
    pernox

    Well-Known Member

    Posted Mar 9, 2011
    Good for fishing in the "no glass bottles allowed" state areas that litter Western MA. If Oskar Blues can get it right, I'm sure Sierra Nevada is capable of the same.

    Good on ya, SN!
     
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