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Lid won't fit on plastic fermentor from kit

Discussion in 'Beginners Beer Brewing Forum' started by kyleobie, Apr 19, 2009.

 

  1. #1
    kyleobie

    Well-Known Member

    Posted Apr 19, 2009
    Hey all,

    So I took the plunge and bought a homebrew kit from my local store and...the lid with the kit won't fit snugly on the plastic fermenter. After measuring the lid with a tape, it appears to be very slightly smaller than the fermenter.

    Any suggestions on how to seal this once I'm ready to ferment? Can I wrap it with tape or foil or something? Or do I need to go complain to my homebrew store?
     
  2. #2
    llazy_llama

    Well-Known Member

    Posted Apr 19, 2009
    Personally, I'd take it back and get a proper lid. Tinfoil will work as long as you don't have insects, but since it's still brand new you might as well get your money's worth.
     
  3. #3
    kyleobie

    Well-Known Member

    Posted Apr 19, 2009
    Wow, that was quick. Thanks.
     
  4. #4
    tireater

    Banned

    Posted Apr 19, 2009
    Last time I was at the HBS, they had several kinds of lids...you probably got the wrong one...
    Some take ALOT of force to seal...If a hardware store is closer, you can probably get the right one for $3...
    Lids w/o o rings won't work on buckets that take an o ring lid...and visa versa...
     
  5. #5
    beersydoesit

    Well-Known Member

    Posted Apr 19, 2009
  6. #6
    Yooper

    Ale's What Cures You! Staff Member  

    Posted Apr 19, 2009
    This sounds silly, but are you sure it won't fit? My lids are super, super tight, and take quite a bit of pushing to get them on. Once they are on, they take some finger strength to pull them off. The first time I brewed, I didn't think my lid fit. But I kind of did a "tupperware" seal, pushing it on around the outside, and it snapped right on. I thought to myself, "Aha!" Maybe yours is the same way?
     
  7. #7
    D1sorder

    Active Member

    Posted Apr 19, 2009
    Yea mine was they same way as Yoopers, I spent like 10 minutes thinking that I had the wrong lid and out of frustration I slammed a lot of my weight on it when I was trying to put it on and what do you know it snapped right on. Can be a pain to get off as well because of the tight fit.
     
  8. #8
    kyleobie

    Well-Known Member

    Posted Apr 20, 2009
    Thanks - I'll give that a try. I've put a lot of weight down on it, but maybe it's not enough?
     
  9. #9
    kyleobie

    Well-Known Member

    Posted Apr 20, 2009
    And...there we go. All that aggravation and a very simple solution. Thanks, ya'll!
     
  10. #10
    Yooper

    Ale's What Cures You! Staff Member  

    Posted Apr 20, 2009
    You're very welcome. It's better to learn from our experience, rather than going back to the store and complaining and have them tell you that you're crazy- it does fit! And then show you how.

    Now, I hope you have extraordinary finger strength to get it off!!! :D




    Actually, one of those "paint can openers" opens them easily, but I just go to one side and "peel" up one spot and then pull it all the way open.
     
  11. #11
    kyleobie

    Well-Known Member

    Posted Apr 21, 2009
    Haha...thanks for the advice. Now, anybody have any suggestions how to get the damn thing off? I wanted to check if any krauzen had formed...and holy crap is that sucker on tight.
     
  12. #12
    Shooter

    Almaigan Brewing Co.  

    Posted Apr 21, 2009
    Now that it's on there, just leave it alone!!! Your beer will repay you later! :)
     
  13. #13
    Weezknight

    Well-Known Member

    Posted Apr 21, 2009
    Yeah I wouldn't open it up quite yet. However since you have time before you should check on it, you can always order an Ale Pail opener. I believe most of the online homebrew stores carry them. Or just lift some weights over the next 2 weeks.
     
  14. #14
    Yooper

    Ale's What Cures You! Staff Member  

    Posted Apr 21, 2009
    As the others said, leave it alone for now. But, I can give you some hints on how to open it. Take out the airlock, and put your knee right in the middle of the lid, putting on a little pressure. Then, lift up with the fingers of both hands in one spot, "peeling" it up in one small spot. Once it moves a little, get your knee off and gently pull it the rest of the way up.

    If you try this with the airlock still in, all of the airlock water will get sucked into the bucket. Trust me on that.

    Now, I'm a middle-aged 135 pound woman. If I can open an ale pail, you better be able to do it!
     
  15. #15
    aidanpryde18

    Active Member

    Posted Apr 21, 2009
    If you want to check for Krausen, wait till it is dark then shine a good flashlight onto the lid of the bucket. Just press the flashlight all the way onto the lid, and you will see the layers of your beer. Depending on the style the krausen will definitely be some different color than the main liquid.

    If you shine the flashlight on the side, you can get an idea of how it is doing too. Experiment and find your favorite perspective.
     
  16. #16
    Powchekny

    Active Member

    Posted Apr 21, 2009
    Hi Kyle,

    One thing about these plastic fermenter lids. They sometimes have little notches cut around the perimeter of the lid. They're actually molded in, with a little extra bit the consumer is expected to cut with a utility knife or snips. If your lid has these "cuts", just snip a few of them at evenly spaced intervals. The lid will become dramatically easier to place and to remove.

    My plastic fermenter lid was next to impossible to get in place until I did this step.

    Tom
     
  17. #17
    PseudoChef

    Well-Known Member

    Posted Apr 21, 2009
    Next time just lay the lid on top. Nothing will get in, and it's super easy to get off. ;)
     
  18. #18
    Yooper

    Ale's What Cures You! Staff Member  

    Posted Apr 21, 2009
    Oh, sure, now you bring that up! Where were you five years ago, when I was learning this stuff? :D (Oh, yeah- grade school!)

    Of course, pseudochef is right. Probably the smartest and easiest way!
     
  19. #19
    kyleobie

    Well-Known Member

    Posted Apr 21, 2009
    Alright, I'll leave it alone for now. I'm worried it's not fermenting - but this seems to be a common concern among us newbies. Oh, the agony of waiting.
     
  20. #20
    JesseRC

    Well-Known Member

    Posted Apr 21, 2009
    THe lid was designed to be noobie proof. Only veteran brewers can take it off:D
     
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