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Less Campden = Better FG

Discussion in 'Fermentation & Yeast' started by RunBikeBrew, Dec 4, 2012.

 

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    RunBikeBrew

    Well-Known Member

    Posted Dec 4, 2012
    Hope this helps somebody...

    I've always had a problem getting my beers to finish dry enough. I would routinely end up with FG's over 1.020. I have great temp control and add a few seconds of oxygen before pitching.

    Since we have a lot of chloramine in our water, I have always used Campden tablets (early batches without campden had bad taste). Up until now, I've used one crushed tablet in the mash water (~5gal) and one tablet in the sparge water (~4gal). I was suspicious that this might be a problem, as I understand wine making folks use campden to stop fermentation.

    My last batch, I reduced campden to 1/4 tablet in the mash water and 1/4 tablet in the sparge water. All other parameters were as before. I hit my FG spot-on (1.015). Sample doesn't seem to have the bad taste from chloramine (but time will tell). Granted, this wasn't an "official" scientific experiment, but my results seem pretty clear.
     
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    bobbrewedit

    Well-Known Member

    Posted Dec 4, 2012
    First of all...great name. It really surprises me how many brewers are into running and exercise.

    Now, on to your post. I would say give it a least 5 batches and you might be on to something...I don't use the tablets, so I have no experience with them. But only one batch is pretty far from being clear results IMHO.
     
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    iBrewR

    Well-Known Member

    Posted Dec 4, 2012
    The manufacture recommendation is 1 tablet for 20 gallons when being used for chlorine and chloramine,

    so yes, you were using too much.
     
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    pabloj13

    Well-Known Member

    Posted Dec 4, 2012
    Yeah that was way, way too much. My water has chloramine. I use 1/4 tablet per the directions and it works great.
     
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    bobbrewedit

    Well-Known Member

    Posted Dec 4, 2012
    My tap water has chloramine, I don't use anything to treat it and have never had any issues.
     
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    jtejedor

    Well-Known Member

    Posted Dec 4, 2012
    Wouldn't it just get boiled off when you boiled the wort?
     
  7. #7
    Yooper

    Ale's What Cures You! Staff Member  

    Posted Dec 4, 2012
    I've heard that too, especially here on the forum.

    But I have no idea where that idea comes from! I've been a winemaker for many years, and have much more experience with wine than beer. Campden does NOT inhibit brewer's yeast, nor wine yeast. That's why winemakers use it. You can use it as an antioxidant, in a fairly high dose, without even affecting the yeast.

    In order to use enough campden to stun or kill the yeast, you'd have to use so much in the wine that the wine would be undrinkable.

    Winemakers routinely use 50-90 ppm in their wine, and more than that for sanitizing.
     
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    Herky21

    Well-Known Member  

    Posted Dec 4, 2012
    that depends on the manufacturer (how many mgs are your tablets) and your water content. The product I buy is 1 tablet per gallon (reduces by 30 ppm) and the water I work with has chlorine and chloramine at about 1.19 mg/l.
     
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    pabloj13

    Well-Known Member

    Posted Dec 4, 2012
    No. Not to rehash this debate again, but chlorine boils off with a short half-life. Chloramine has a much longer half life. It doesn't take much chloramine to get bandaid flavor. A jar of Campden tabs is like $4 which is enough for hundreds of batches.
     
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    iBrewR

    Well-Known Member

    Posted Dec 4, 2012
    Crosby & Baker 2 ounce tablets

     
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