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Fruit Beer Lemon-Lime Hefe Weizen

Discussion in 'Specialty, Fruit, Historical, Other Homebrew Recip' started by SD-SLIM, Jul 8, 2011.

 

  1. jeff62217

    Well-Known Member

    Posted Dec 12, 2013
    Checked it after 12 days, already at 1.01 and tastes good.... Resisting temptation to keg early!
    It's difficult as my pipeline's lean.
     
  2. butterpants

    Well-Known Member

    Posted Dec 12, 2013
    Another week and you're golden
     
  3. jeff62217

    Well-Known Member

    Posted Dec 18, 2013
    Started force carbing two days ago, a little early I know.. but man this beer is a winner. Citrus really comes through and it's light, extremely drinkable and delicious. This will be a staple in my brew recipe collection. Next time I'll try it with mouteka if I can get them. Thanks for the recipe Slim.

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  4. SD-SLIM

    Well-Known Member

    Posted Dec 24, 2013
    I'm glad you liked it!
     
  5. Hoon

    Active Member

    Posted Dec 31, 2013
    Did this one up. Although not a big hefe fan, the lime part intrigued me. 4 days in the bottle and not bad.
     
  6. yeknom366

    Well-Known Member

    Posted Jan 2, 2014
    I'm thinking of making something very similar to this, but with a very different yeast - heady topper's Conan. Thoughts?
     
  7. SD-SLIM

    Well-Known Member

    Posted Jan 5, 2014
    Yeast make this beer....read through all of the other people who out of necessity subbed out the yeast their first time, then made it with the right yeast the second time. My advice to anyone reading this recipe.....a lot of time was spent creating this recipe, a lot of people love this recipe, so shouldn't you see why before you change it?
     
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  8. yeknom366

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    Posted Jan 6, 2014
    Too lazy to sift through 121 pages of posts, but I'll take your word on it... kind of. I think I *might* just take 1 gallon of it and ferment with Conan, and the other 4 gallons with WL Hefe IV. Just curious, were others just using different hefeweizen yeast strains or miscellaneous ale yeasts?
     
  9. Brewskii

    Well-Known Member

    Posted Jan 6, 2014

    Slim is not shy about saying the Hops and yeast are the key ingredients in this beer and your depriving yourself if substituting in these areas.
     
  10. yeknom366

    Well-Known Member

    Posted Jan 6, 2014
    The reason I am considering Conan is because it adds apricot flavor like SD-SLIM said of Hefe IV, but also adds other citrus and tropical fruit flavors. Definitely would kill the clove flavor though, we'll see I guess.
     
  11. yeknom366

    Well-Known Member

    Posted Jan 7, 2014
    So I wasn't too keen on the calculations done earlier in this thread regarding the ABV after the limeade is added. It seems like only the extra sugar was considered, not the increase in volume. One bottle of limeade is 1.75L, or 0.462 gal, and contains 28g sugar per 8 oz. This means there is ~207g of sugar in a full bottle. Once this is converted (assuming 100% yield), you end up with 111g of ethanol, or 88mL. 88mL/1750mL is 5.02% ethanol from just fermenting the limeade.

    Now let's look at the rest of the beer. I put the grain bill into Brewer's Friend with 80% efficiency high attenuation (77%) to allow the highest possible ABV. I also used a final volume of 5.538 gallons (6 gallons - limeade volume). This gave an OG of 1.061, FG of 1.014, and ABV ~6.18%, nowhere near some people's ABV in the 7-8% range. If you add up the total acohol in each and divide by the new volume, it will lower the ABV.

    5.538 gallons * 0.0618 = 0.3422 gallons ethanol from the beer
    0.462 gallons * 0.0502 = 0.0232 gallons of ethanol from the limeade

    (0.0232 gallons + 0.3422 gallons) / 6 gallons = 6.09%

    Unless something weird goes on with the beer or limeade that I don't know about, it should slightly lower the ABV, but a really insignifcant change. Also, I am going to measure the OG of limeade and ferment it, for science. I will get back with the results.
     
  12. Doed

    Belching Dog Brewery

    Posted Jan 7, 2014
    This is one delicious adult beverage. I've made it several times now.

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  13. Hoon

    Active Member

    Posted Jan 8, 2014
    Pleasantly surprised at how "malty" it is, and not so much the wheat essence. A do again!
     
  14. SD-SLIM

    Well-Known Member

    Posted Jan 9, 2014
    Beautiful Beer!
     
  15. SD-SLIM

    Well-Known Member

    Posted Jan 9, 2014
    Glad you liked it!
     
  16. ragertom

    Well-Known Member

    Posted Jan 9, 2014
    Subbed
     
  17. codym

    Member

    Posted Jan 10, 2014
    Would like to brew this one soon, but am having a hard time finding everything I need off of one site. Anybody know of a site where I can find both the hops and yeast for this recipe?
     
  18. KirkD

    Active Member

    Posted Jan 10, 2014
    It was hard for me to bring together all the ingredients from one place. I was able to get yeast and grain from my LHBS but had to get hops online. Trust me it is worth it.
     
  19. codym

    Member

    Posted Jan 11, 2014
    Went to northern brewer and found all but sorachi ace. I searched it and Falconer's® Flight Hop Pellets came up. The description seems similar to sorachi so I think I'm going to go ahead and order everything from northern brewery. This day and age you wouldn't think it would be so hard to find all of the ingredients on one website...
     
  20. Brewskii

    Well-Known Member

    Posted Jan 11, 2014
    I know of one recipe that calls for Sorachi Ace...and your brewing it. A couple commercial brews have started to make beers to showcase the hop but I think they have met with limited success. Based on the popularity of this thread I would think the Japanese hop growers consortium (If there is one) would make Slim their supreme ruler.

    From Morebeer.com:
    "Due to a shortage of Sorachi hop pellets, the price of this particular hop was recently raised. We apologize for any inconvenience this may cause, but please let us know if you have any questions or concerns."
     
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  21. KirkD

    Active Member

    Posted Jan 11, 2014
    Both hops are available right now on Amazon or from Midwest
     
  22. codym

    Member

    Posted Jan 11, 2014
    I think Midwest didn't have the hefe IV yeast. Rebel brewer had everything but the white wheat malt (they were out of stock) so I had to compromise and order light wheat malt. My first all grain beer is turning into a headache and I haven't even started brewing! Took me a lot of searching to find everything in stock at one place but I did it. Just to be sure on this, the recipe says it is a 6 gallon batch, that's excluding the lime aid that I will be adding on day 3 right? So I will end up with 6.5 gallons after adding 1.75L lime aid? Or do I shoot for 5.5gal wort after boil to put in carboy and add the half gallon of lime aid to make it 6 on day 3?
     
  23. miked597

    Well-Known Member

    Posted Jan 12, 2014
    Just got my ingredients for this one. Had to sub motueka for saaz and safbrew WB-06 for WLB IV any thoughts or should I wait and get the right stuff?
     
  24. Doed

    Belching Dog Brewery

    Posted Jan 13, 2014
    It is going to depend on your fermentor size. The Hefe IV produces a crazy fermentation. If you are using a 6 gallon BB, go for the lower volume otherwise you will lose a bunch of yeast in the blow off container.
     
  25. zx2tuner

    Active Member

    Posted Jan 22, 2014
    Anybody substitute brewers best lime peel for the lime zest? You think it would produce similar flavor?
     
  26. USMCBrewer

    Well-Known Member

    Posted Jan 25, 2014
    Just went into the carboy tonight. Can't wait... 6 weeks is gonna take forever!
     
  27. USMCBrewer

    Well-Known Member

    Posted Jan 25, 2014
    16 hrs after pitching
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  28. SD-SLIM

    Well-Known Member

    Posted Jan 31, 2014
    That's a beautiful thing!


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  29. Wrecked

    Well-Known Member

    Posted Jan 31, 2014
    Just checked my FG and kegged this up after 3 weeks in the fermenter. FG finished up at .010, probably due to mashing at 154. Flavor and color are awesome. I didn't get as much up front lime flavor as I wanted, probably due to the quality of limes I zested. Overall I'm extremely pleased and can't wait to brew it again.


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  30. Culln5

    Well-Known Member

    Posted Feb 6, 2014
    When using the Extract version of this recipe, is it scaled for 5 gallons? Does the below recipe look right? BeerSmith took out the 1lb of Vienna Malt and I was thinking that it should kept in the recipe and steeped?

    Thanks!
    George


    Recipe: Lemon Lime Hefe Weizen (Extract)
    Style: Weizen/Weissbier
    TYPE: Extract
    Taste: (30.0)

    Recipe Specifications
    --------------------------
    Boil Size: 6.42 gal
    Post Boil Volume: 5.99 gal
    Batch Size (fermenter): 5.25 gal
    Bottling Volume: 4.85 gal
    Estimated OG: 1.053 SG
    Estimated Color: 8.1 SRM
    Estimated IBU: 18.2 IBUs
    Brewhouse Efficiency: 72.00 %
    Est Mash Efficiency: 0.0 %
    Boil Time: 60 Minutes

    Ingredients:
    ------------
    Amt Name Type # %/IBU

    7 lbs 12.0 oz Wheat Liquid Extract (8.0 SRM) Extract 2 91.2 %
    12.0 oz Pale Liquid Extract (8.0 SRM) Extract 3 8.8 %
    0.25 oz Motueka [7.00 %] - Boil 60.0 min Hop 4 5.6 IBUs
    0.25 oz Motueka [7.00 %] - Boil 20.0 min Hop 5 3.4 IBUs
    0.25 oz Sorachi Ace [13.00 %] - Boil 20.0 min Hop 6 6.3 IBUs
    0.25 oz Sorachi Ace [13.00 %] - Boil 7.0 min Hop 7 2.8 IBUs
    0.50 oz Lime Zest (Boil 5.0 mins) Flavor 8 -
    1.0 pkg Hefeweizen IV Ale (White Labs #WLP380) [ Yeast 9 -
    1.75 l Simply Limeade (Primary 3.0 days) Flavor 10 -


    Mash Schedule: Single Infusion, Light Body, No Mash Out
    Total Grain Weight: 8 lbs 8.0 oz
    ----------------------------

    Sparge: If steeping, remove grains, and prepare to boil wort
    Notes:
    ------
    - Wait 24-72 hours after initial fermentation and then add the limeade to the primary fermenter (vigorous fermentation must be complete because the sugar in the Simply Limeade will pick it up again)
    - Ferment a minimum of three (3) weeks.
    -Blow off tube most likely needed


    Created with BeerSmith 2 - http://www.beersmith.com
     
  31. MedicMang

    Well-Known Member

    Posted Feb 6, 2014
    The vienna needs to be mashed in my opinion. Just do a mini mash with it if you really want it in there.
     
  32. Culln5

    Well-Known Member

    Posted Feb 7, 2014
    I know there's been debate about Vienna being steeped and/or mashed, but I think I just need to know if the flavor is of importance to the final product when using the extract version of the recipe.

    George

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  33. SD-SLIM

    Well-Known Member

    Posted Feb 9, 2014
    Yes the Vienna along with the other grains are important..... When I made this recipe, I did almost a hundred base variations before I settled on what I feel makes the best base for a flavored Hef....after that I experimented with hops, it took a little over 20 variations....and then I brewed the base and hops with almost every strain of yeast and 3 of my own strains.
    So long story, simple answer....I took a lot of time to carefully balance this beer from start to finish, as the brewer you can and should feel free to experiment as much as you want...but in my opinion, it takes every part to make this recipe a great beer....but as the father of this recipe, I may be a little biased!


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  34. atimmerman88

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    Posted Feb 9, 2014
    Seems as if everyone of us who brews this recipe should be handing you some royalties :)
     
  35. SD-SLIM

    Well-Known Member

    Posted Feb 9, 2014
    Lol....I take great pride in the fact that people have brewed this for loved ones, weddings and competition...so being apart of that is all I need!


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  36. Culln5

    Well-Known Member

    Posted Feb 9, 2014
    I look forward to brewing this awesome recipe! Has anybody named theirs?

    George

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  37. butterpants

    Well-Known Member

    Posted Feb 10, 2014
    My latest rendition was named Alligator Klips.

    Alligator Clips because I accidentally dropped 2 big ass A clips into the brew pot and had a complete bitchfit getting them out.

    K in Klips because I used a Kolsch yeast.

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  38. shezza88

    Member

    Posted Feb 17, 2014
    Hey guys,

    I'm very new to the whole brewing world, so new in fact I haven't even got the equipment to brew anything yet. Anyway this recipe has really caught my eye and I'm looking to make it sooner rather than later.

    Rather than ask you a million questions about brewing, I've done some reading and read a lot of this thread to get some sort of idea of a very basic step by step guide on how to brew this beer. Could someone check over the steps for the extract version I've made myself to make sure I'm not missing anything massively important?

    1. Heat 3 gallons of water to 160, steep vienna for 20 mins.
    2. Take vienna out, bring to boil
    3. add wheat LME/DME and pale LME/DME, stir in.
    4. Follow hop recipe
    5. Put into fermentation bucket and cool quickly
    6. Take gravity reading?
    7. Add yeast (from a starter?)
    8. Top up fermentation bucket and seal with airlock etc.

    Obviously sanitising everything is very important too, but apart from that is that a decent guide to brewing this?

    Apologises for both the long-ish post and my lack of knowledge. All replies will be greatly appreciated!
     
  39. rwgaro

    Well-Known Member

    Posted Feb 17, 2014
    Not knowing the specifics of the recipe, but just some basics - take the pot off the heat before you add the LME / DME, and mix up before adding back to heat (less messy this way), and cool in the brew pot / kettle before adding to the fermentation bucket...
     
  40. SD-SLIM

    Well-Known Member

    Posted Feb 17, 2014
    Hello...since this is your first brew, I would really recommend purchasing a kit from a supplier because they break the minutes down for you....but I completely understand if you don't. Should you decide to make this beer, I would create a minute by minute list....pre-portion all of your ingredients....and use a timer. Most often the lack of prep when brewing results in a F'd up beer....so write it, portion it and time it....easy breezy!


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