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Kuytbier recipe

Discussion in 'General Homebrew Discussion' started by mbarone00, May 18, 2016.

 

  1. #1
    mbarone00

    Active Member

    Posted May 18, 2016
    So I tried brewing a kuytbier last night. When shopping for grains my home brew store only has golden naked oats. I figured i'd just see what happens when using a recipe with that much crystal malt, even if it's oat. Any idea of what I might get with that much golden naked oats? I did a decoction mash. I checked it this evening and it blew the airlock off!


    5 lbs Oats, Golden Naked 41.7 %
    2 lbs Pale Malt, Maris Otter 16.7 %
    2 lbs White Wheat Malt 16.7 %
    1 lbs Oats, Flaked 8.3 %
    1 lbs Pale Malt (2 Row) 8.3 %
    1 lbs Victory Malt 8.3 %

    Hopped with hallertauer, saphir and nelson and used Belgian Ardennes yeast 3522
     
  2. #2
    signpost

    Well-Known Member

    Posted May 18, 2016
    I had to do a quick google search to even know what a Kuytbier was. Looks like an interesting recipe to me. I obviously don't know much about the style, but the ingredients you used seem to make sense for a tasty brew.

    The best part of this is that my search came up with a dutch wiki page and google translated it for me. I had several different translations for Kuit and kuitbier, including roe, calf/calf beer, and spawn beer.

    Sounds awesome.:tank:
     
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  3. #3
    mbarone00

    Active Member

    Posted May 18, 2016
    Yeah, I read that page also. My understanding is that it's a minimum of 45% oat malt, minimum 20% wheat malt and a maximum of 35% pale or pilsner malt. It tasted decent when I transferred to the carboy. Just wanted feedback from anyone who used that much golden naked oats in a recipe or any other crystal malt.
     
  4. #4
    chickypad

    lupulin shift victim  

    Posted May 18, 2016
    Oh boy, don't know about that. I know they call GNO a crystal malt but they don't taste like typical crystal to me. They are very nutty - like peanuty almost. I like them, but at around 7% in pales and browns. 42% would I expect be way too much to be palatable.

    This month's Zymurgy has an article on kuytbier with recipe.
     
  5. #5
    elwood522

    Member

    Posted Jul 29, 2016
    Was gonna brew this up with the zymurgy recipe using EKG & 3522. Just wanted to see how yours came out. Never used that strain before but it sounds great.

    :mug:
     
  6. #6
    mbarone00

    Active Member

    Posted Jul 30, 2016
    The beer came out pretty decent. Very citrusy aroma. The nuttyness I was expecting from the large amount of golden naked wasn't present at all. I would like to do this recipe again with the golden naked percentage brought down and compare the two. The Ardennes really came through too.
     
  7. #7
    elwood522

    Member

    Posted Jul 31, 2016
    Thanks! I'm gonna try and use Thomas fawcett Oak malt like in the zymurgy recipe and see how it goes. Cheers
     
  8. #8
    mbarone00

    Active Member

    Posted Apr 27, 2019
    Hey, so I wanted to reopen this post because I found it's difficult to find a recipe/information on kuytbier. I've brewed/tweaked this recipe over the last few years and it's won a few awards. I'm actually brewing this today in preparation for the NHC finals. It won the historical beer category for the Philadelphia region.

    I'm no longer using golden naked oats or flaked oats. I'm sticking with oat malt, white wheat malt, and pale malt (in my recipe I have a touch of victory and munich, to mimic a maris otter/golden promise.

    With regards to the mash, I do a step mash (this mash is the same mash found in the Zymurgy article on Kuytbier):
    Mash in @ 113F for 20min
    Raise mash temperature to 143F and rest for 30 minutes
    Raise mash temperature to 161F and rest for 30 minutes
    Raise mash temperature to 170 for mash out

    As far as yeast goes i've used both a Belgian and Kolsch strain (Imperial yeast Gnome and Dieter) with success. I prefer the Gnome (Ardennes) strain personally but they both work well. For the Gnome I ferment at 68-70F and with Dieter I go 63-65F.

    Here's the recipe:

    Style: Kuytbier
    TYPE: All Grain
    Taste: (30.0)

    Recipe Specifications
    --------------------------
    Boil Size: 7.04 gal
    Post Boil Volume: 5.99 gal
    Batch Size (fermenter): 5.50 gal
    Bottling Volume: 5.25 gal
    Estimated OG: 1.062 SG
    Estimated Color: 5.6 SRM
    Estimated IBU: 27.1 IBUs
    Brewhouse Efficiency: 72.00 %
    Est Mash Efficiency: 75.3 %
    Boil Time: 90 Minutes

    Grist:
    6lbs Oat Malt 43.6%
    4.25lbs 2-row 30.9%
    2.5lbs Wheat Malt 18.2%
    4oz Victory Malt 1.8%
    4oz Munich Malt 1.8%
    8oz Rice Hulls 3.6%

    Hops
    :
    .5oz Loral @ FWH 22 IBU
    .35oz Loral @ 10min 5 IBU
    .5oz Loral @ Dryhop for 3-5 days

    Mash:
    Mash-in: 113F for 20min
    Mash-step: 143F for 30min
    Mash-step: 161F for 30min
    Mash-out: 170F for 10min

    Yeast:
    Imperial Yeast B45 Gnome (WY3522 Ardennes/Achouffe) @68-70F
    Imperial Yeast G03 Kieter (German ale/Kolsch) @63-65F


    Let me know what you guys think and if you brew it, give me some feedback!
     
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    Gnomebrewer

    Well-Known Member

    Posted Apr 27, 2019
    Looks interesting. I'm on a bit of a 'historical beer quest' at the moment, and will probably give this a go (and WY3522 is one of my favourite yeasts). How messy does the mash get with that much oat and wheat? Do you BIAB? Do you get sparge issues?
     
  10. #10
    mbarone00

    Active Member

    Posted Apr 28, 2019
    I brew on a Robobrew V3 and haven't had issues with the mash. It's like any other mash honestly, I think the hulls from the oat malt and the rice hulls really help. The 113F mash also adds to that too.
     
  11. #11
    Gnomebrewer

    Well-Known Member

    Posted Apr 28, 2019
    Thanks. I've never used oat malt, only rolled/flaked oats.
     
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