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Kegging/Nitro with.... Liquids

Discussion in 'General Homebrew Discussion' started by abrown221, Jul 1, 2015.

 

  1. #1
    abrown221

    New Member

    Posted Jul 1, 2015
    I work at a bar and we are looking to start kegging our pre batched margaritas. I wanted to charge it with nitro! Nitro coffee seems to be the thing, and you guys are pros, so I figured I would turn to you.

    I used this for a first attempt without trying to charge a full keg:
    http://www.isi.com/us/culinary/home-edition/products/easy-whip-mini/

    I put in 8oz of liquid, charged it with one charge of nitro, and dispensed. It was all foam and none of the liquid retained any foam or mouthfeel. Not sure what I am doing wrong, but it is a disappointing start to the experimentation.

    Do I need a higher end whipping siphon? Is it not possible to nitro charge that kind of liquid? Please help!
     
  2. #2
    ImNoExpert

    Supporting Member  

    Posted Jul 1, 2015
    I don't think it's going to work for your margaritas. No protein to form a stable foam.
     
  3. #3
    Tiber_Brew

    It's about the beer.  

    Posted Jul 1, 2015
    The purpose of using Nitrogen in draught systems is to push the product at higher pressure without overcarbonating (as opposed to using CO2 alone). You aren't actually dissolving N2 into the product, since it is extremely difficult to dissolve N2 into any water based solution at temperatures and pressures used in draught tech. Without any level of carbonation and some sort of head retaining agent such as proteins, you aren't going to get any lasting head, no matter how your pour it.
     
  4. #4
    DogsTooth

    Member

    Posted Jul 1, 2015
    Forget the kegging system and make a better drink. Quality over quick convenience. If you want a head like quality for the margarita, use egg whites.
     
  5. #5
    Tiber_Brew

    It's about the beer.  

    Posted Jul 1, 2015
    Please don't put egg whites in a margarita! ;)
     
  6. #6
    abrown221

    New Member

    Posted Jul 2, 2015
    Hm.

    Science can't fix this? There is no sort of stabilizing agent I can add to the drink? Xanthan or otherwise?
     
  7. #7
    Tiber_Brew

    It's about the beer.  

    Posted Jul 2, 2015
    There are no foam retaining agents I can think of that should be within 30 feet of a good margarita.
     
  8. #8
    ImNoExpert

    Supporting Member  

    Posted Jul 2, 2015
    Here's a thought: Make your margarita as usual, then toss it out and pour yourself a nice pint.
     
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  9. #9
    MrFancyPlants

    Well-Known Member

    Posted Jul 2, 2015
    I put a can of light beer in the blender with my blended margaritas and it gives it nice foam. However, I prefer my margaritas with a smokey Mezcal on the rocks.
    Sorry I haven't tried beer gas yet to add much constructive ither than that I've read that the type of faucet is almost as important at the nitro for making the creamy head associated with stouts.
     
  10. #10
    Psylocide

    Ippons for Days

    Posted Jul 2, 2015
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  11. #11
    Hoppity

    Just brew it!

    Posted Jul 2, 2015
    How about gelatin?
     
  12. #12
    Hujo

    Well-Known Member

    Posted Jul 2, 2015
    Gelatin could work, xantan or maltosec (maltodextrin) would probably be better. Google texturas and you'll find what you need
     
  13. #13
    doug293cz

    BIABer, Beer Math Nerd, ePanel Designer, Pilot Staff Member  

    Posted Jul 2, 2015
    Whatever you use for head retention, you will still need to carbonate to some level to get a head to form. Nitrogen alone will not dissolve enough gas into the beer to create a head. You want to carb to some level with CO2, and then put it on pressure with a mixture of N2 and CO2 (aka beer gas.) You need to pick the beer gas mix so that the CO2 partial pressure at serving temperature will maintain the correct carbonation level, otherwise it will eventually go flat (no head) or over carbonate (too much foam.) You also have to have enough resistance in the serving line and tap to control the flow rate of the pour to about 1 gal/minute or less. A stout tap or a flow control tap will be needed if the serving pressure is high enough.

    Brew on :mug:
     
  14. #14
    DogsTooth

    Member

    Posted Jul 4, 2015

    There are seriously a ton of cocktails that have egg white in them to create a frothy, thick head. Talk to any decent bartender.
     
  15. #15
    DogsTooth

    Member

    Posted Jul 4, 2015

    There are seriously a ton of cocktails that have egg white in them to create a frothy, thick head. Talk to any decent bartender.
     
  16. #16
    DogsTooth

    Member

  17. #17
    Zinc_Saucier

    Well-Known Member  

    Posted Jul 4, 2015

    But a margarita should not be one...
     
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  18. #18
    DogsTooth

    Member

    Posted Jul 4, 2015
    .
     
  19. #19
    DogsTooth

    Member

    Posted Jul 4, 2015

    Nor should it be kegged and dispensed, like a carnival soda pop while we're on the subject but hey-- to each their own.
     
  20. #20
    Tiber_Brew

    It's about the beer.  

    Posted Jul 6, 2015
    This. For the record, I also do not think this whole whipping head on a margarita thing is a good idea.
     
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