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Just tasted my first All Grain Home Brew beer!! Not much taste?

Discussion in 'All Grain & Partial Mash Brewing' started by BigEasy43, Apr 3, 2016.

 

  1. #1
    BigEasy43

    Well-Known Member

    Posted Apr 3, 2016
    So I just tasted my first All Grain Beer that I did, but there isn't a lot of taste. Beer looks good and has a good smell, but feel like it's missing taste. Why is that? I did a German Hef as my first all grain brewing. Any info would be great.
     
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    theseeker4

    Well-Known Member

    Posted Apr 3, 2016
    We can't tell you anything unless you give us some details about the recipe, your processes, how long since you brewed, how long it has been in the keg/bottle, etc.
     
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    doug293cz

    BIABer, Beer Math Nerd, ePanel Designer, Pilot Staff Member  

    Posted Apr 3, 2016
    How about some details on recipe and process. No one can give you any useful advice without that information.

    Brew on :mug:
     
  4. #4
    BigEasy43

    Well-Known Member

    Posted Apr 3, 2016
    Sorry, recipe is attached. I let grain sit in mast tun for 60mins and then did a run off to the kettle. I boiled for 90 mins then used my wort chiller to bring it down to 70F. I let it sit in the fermented bucket for 3 weeks and then moved it over to bottles for another 3 weeks. Cracked open the first one tonight.

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    squaremile

    Well-Known Member

    Posted Apr 3, 2016
    Did you hit the numbers that were expected in the recipe? Gravity, attenuation, etc?
     
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    blackbeer

    Well-Known Member

    Posted Apr 3, 2016
    to me that looks like a light ale recipe with very low malt or hop character. probably a perfect "lawnmower" beer. i do a 50/50 american 2 row/american wheat 25 ibu cascade with s05 that is very similiar. nothing stands out. just a clean, light ale. if it has no off flavors and a clean finish, it sounds like you hit the mark.

    also, since this is your first AG, you will notice that AG does not typically have that extract twang you sometimes get. thats the beauty of AG.
     
  7. #7
    JonM

    Well-Known Member

    Posted Apr 3, 2016
    And what was the fermentation temperature? How well does your mash tun hold temperature? Do you know what the mash temp was at the end of the 60 minutes?

    Also, you didn't, say, eat a plate of mega-spicy buffalo wings or other palate-killer before sampling, right?
     
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    BrunDog

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    Posted Apr 3, 2016
    Might be a little green.
     
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    ShineonCrazyDiamond

    Member

    Posted Apr 3, 2016
    Dont sweat it! It's probably just green. My first beer ever was an All Grain German wheat. First one was, watery, tasting. But a week or 2 on the tap the flavors started to melt together and became more pronounced.

    Edit: Posting with Big dog bruin.
     
  10. #10
    Qhrumphf

    Stay Rude, Stay Rebel, Stay SHARP  

    Posted Apr 3, 2016
    What was the mash temp?

    What was the fermentation temp?

    Hefeweizens are a difficult style to get right, especially when it comes to fermentation. I've found if the pitching rate and fermentation temp aren't right, it lacks the expected strong banana/clove. And with that kind of beer, the malt is subtle, especially if you just us a single infusion mash, and there's little hop to speak of, so as a result the end up bland.

    I've found repeatedly that Hefes will benefit from a step mash (I do 45 mins at 110, 5 mins at 128, 60 mins at 152, and then 10 mins at 168), and I actually prefer them decocted, although most don't think it's worth the effort. However, for your initial all-grain batches that's likely biting off more than you can chew.

    But with fermentation, I've found repeatedly that only by underpitching and fermenting cold (I fermented my Weizens at 60-62F) can I get the balance of banana and clove that I want. I've never used WB-06 (I like Wyeast 3068), but I'd assume it behaves like the other Hefe strains, fermenting too warm inhibits the clove phenolics, while overpitching inhibits the banana esters. End result is weak beer.

    And with that gravity and a full pack of dry yeast, in this case you probably overpitched.
     
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    BigEasy43

    Well-Known Member

    Posted Apr 3, 2016
    My mash temp was 154F for the full 60mins and the fermentation temp was between 62F-64F for 3 weeks.
     
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    JonM

    Well-Known Member

    Posted Apr 3, 2016
    I don't know that particular dry yeast and I know that mfgr's recommendations don't always go as planned in practice, but Danstsr says that yeast should be in the 70s for the banana/clove phenolics to develop.
     
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    acidrain

    Well-Known Member

    Posted Apr 4, 2016
    All Pilsner and wheat... 15.1 IBU's... you got exactly what you bought.
     
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