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Irregardless still isn't a real word

Discussion in 'General Chit Chat' started by cheezydemon3, Jan 11, 2013.

 

  1. #1
    cheezydemon3

    Banned

    Posted Jan 11, 2013
    Double effing negative.

    Ir, and less would cancel each other out.

    So if it is a word, it means regardful, and stupid people everywhere are using it wrong.
     
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  2. #2
    Bulls Beers

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    Posted Jan 11, 2013
    I hear it a lot..It's annoying.
     
  3. #3
    CloverBrew

    Well-Known Member

    Posted Jan 11, 2013
    Agreed and witnessed. Ive seen it written in professional emails from"smart" people. Glad im not alone on this
     
  4. #4
    landshark

    HMFIC  

    Posted Jan 11, 2013
    Irregardless, people will continue to use it, whether or not it is a word.
     
  5. #5
    bobbrews

    Well-Known Member

    Posted Jan 11, 2013
    cheezydemon is an oxymoron...

    demons are f'ing cool... far from cheezy!!!
     
  6. #6
    cheezydemon3

    Banned

    Posted Jan 11, 2013
    Oh! You are right BOBBREWS!!!

    I must be irrecheezy.
     
  7. #7
    Varmintman

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    Posted Jan 11, 2013
    So what does Ir mean.
     
  8. #8
    kaboom133

    Well-Known Member

    Posted Jan 11, 2013
    IR means light with longer wavelengths than those in the visible spectrum.
     
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  9. #9
    Varmintman

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    Posted Jan 11, 2013
    I was thinking that when I posted it and wondered if any one else caught it
     
  10. #10
    cheezydemon3

    Banned

    Posted Jan 11, 2013
    Ir means "Not" (I know you were kidding, varmint but here it is anyways) as in "irreversible" or not reversible.

    So Irregardless means not regardless.
     
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  11. #11
    HeadyKilowatt

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    Posted Jan 11, 2013
    "Irregardless" annoys me almost as much as people saying "I could care less," which actually means that they DO care to some extent- the opposite of what they're trying to say.
     
  12. #12
    cheezydemon3

    Banned

    Posted Jan 11, 2013
    :mug:
     
  13. #13
    nasty_rabbit

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    Posted Jan 11, 2013
    When I see a the word "INERT" (ie. gas, landfill ...) it makes me wonder if this is inert when is it ert.
     
  14. #14
    moscoeb

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    Posted Jan 11, 2013
    Just to be the devils advocate!!


    http://i.word.com/idictionary/irregardless

    Main Entry: ir·re·gard·less
    Pronunciation: \ˌir-i-ˈgärd-ləs\
    Function: adverb
    Etymology: probably blend of irrespective and regardless
    Date: circa 1912
    nonstandard : regardless
    usage Irregardless originated in dialectal American speech in the early 20th century. Its fairly widespread use in speech called it to the attention of usage commentators as early as 1927. The most frequently repeated remark about it is that “there is no such word.” There is such a word, however. It is still used primarily in speech, although it can be found from time to time in edited prose. Its reputation has not risen over the years, and it is still a long way from general acceptance. Use regardless instead.


    Ok, I'll go hide now. I don't want to get in trouble irregardless of what I just posted!
     
  15. #15
    cheezydemon3

    Banned

    Posted Jan 11, 2013
    ;) even that says to use the real word instead!;)
     
  16. #16
    moscoeb

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    Posted Jan 11, 2013
    Ya, But it does say it's a word! Maybe a poorly used word, but still a word! :)
    I have a buddy of mine that absolutely cringes when he hears that word and also wal marts with the S on the end.

    So I make sure to use em as often as I can!
     
  17. #17
    dae06

    Well-Known Member

    Posted Jan 11, 2013
    It is one of those words that is used so much (incorrectly), that it is accepted by many. Kind of like "supposably". That one drives me nuts too!
     
  18. #18
    moscoeb

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    Posted Jan 11, 2013
    It's sad but true. Used so often by so many that even if its wrong, it still made it into the dictionary!
     
  19. #19
    cheezydemon3

    Banned

    Posted Jan 11, 2013

    I think that technically, you can say it, but by definition, a double-negative is NOT a word.

    As a brewer, I am just spreading the word, because I love my bretheren and don't want them to sound effing retarded if they are representing other homebrewers in any way, shape, or form.
     
  20. #20
    TwoDogBrew

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    Posted Jan 11, 2013
    It's the same difference..

    http://www.irregardless.com/
     
  21. #21
    Cromwell

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    Posted Jan 11, 2013
    Language purists always decry new usages which aren't "words". However simply because something isn't in one or a few dictionaries, doesn't mean it's not a word. Wikipedia has this:

    In language, a word is the smallest element that may be uttered in isolation with semantic or pragmatic content (with literal or practical meaning).

    If people use it in speech, it is by definition a word. Most slang words weren't words when they entered the lexicon.

    I'm beginning to think Cheezy is reactionaryalistic.
     
  22. #22
    cheezydemon3

    Banned

    Posted Jan 11, 2013
    Holy effing sh!t. I seriously might consider killing those people......wtf????

    Guess their food is supposably good?

    Permenant boycot.
     
  23. #23
    Oldskooler

    Supporting member  

    Posted Jan 11, 2013
    Well after reading this post and the highly intellectual responses anything I would say would just be irrelevant
     
  24. #24
    cheezydemon3

    Banned

    Posted Jan 11, 2013
    That's Superreactionaryalistic suckmealadocious to you bub!

    When reading or listening to spoken word, it is possible to glean the meaning of a word from the prefixes, body and suffixes.

    If we make a word mean it's opposite, just because enough dipsh!ts say it that way, then we just allowed America to get a little more retarded.
     
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  25. #25
    DromJohn

    5 Gallon Partial-Something Brewer  

    Posted Jan 11, 2013
    One of my pet peeves is grammar nazis who don't know what "real" means.
    "Irregardless" may be a stupid and confusing word, therefore a word that should not be used, but EACs that think "irregardless" isn't real are stupid and confusing.
     
  26. #26
    Cromwell

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    Posted Jan 11, 2013
    Cheezy, you're making the case for the language to be orthogonal, but in fact English is rich and complex (and difficult) because it isn't.

    If you were irradiated, does that mean you weren't subjected to radiation?
    Does irritable mean not tabled?

    Am I irritating you? Because I wouldn't want to tate you.
     
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  27. #27
    cheezydemon3

    Banned

    Posted Jan 11, 2013
    Irradiated is probably the same problem. Subtract Ir from irritating and you have ritate....ing.... Not sure of the root word there, but either way, neither of those is a double negative.

    Irradiated probably came from the same thing irregardless seems to. People trying to sound more important or more intelligent, or at least just to put more emphasis on the word.

    "He wasn't just radiated!!! He was IRRADIATED!!!!!! HOLY HELL!!!!!!!

    NOTATED is another mis-used word (YES AN ACTUAL WORD) used to sound more intelligent or important when "NOTED" is what is meant 99% of the time.

    (unless something is typed in different font and placed in the margins, out of the body of a page, it is merely noted, not NOTATED)
     
  28. #28
    MalFet

    /bɪər nɜrd/  

    Posted Jan 11, 2013
    Did you know that English has a future tense only because a bunch of low-brow cockneys started using a mood construction wrong sometime in the 17th century? The entire English language came to exist largely as a result of people using other languages wrong.

    Anyway, "irregardless" bugs me too for some reason.
     
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  29. #29
    Cromwell

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    Posted Jan 11, 2013
    Well, I was just having fun with ya, but actually no - irradiate comes from the Latin: irradiatus, so here "ir" means "into".
     
  30. #30
    cheezydemon3

    Banned

    Posted Jan 11, 2013
    :mug: Thanks for the lesson!
     
  31. #31
    Cromwell

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    Posted Jan 11, 2013
    I'm a natural contrarian. If you'd been arguing that "irregardless" was a perfectly valid word, I'd be taking the other side. Might be that I just like trying to see the other side of things, but it might be just that I'm an argumentative jerk. :D

    In any case, I agree, "irregardless" is superfluous, but it isn't going to bug me all that much, because it's just another instance of the language evolving. Purists are always trying to stabilize language, and they always fail.

    Notwithstanding your unpredilection to slang, it ain't no thang.
     
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  32. #32
    Varmintman

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    Posted Jan 11, 2013
    And I am truly enjoying this thread. I am going to have to say written is not my first or even second language. I suck when it comes to writing
     
  33. #33
    SwivelHips

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    Posted Jan 11, 2013
    Sadly, the dictionary follows the language rather than the language the dictionary. Hence if a (non-)word becomes commonly used, it is eventually added to the dictionary, much to the chagrin of part-time grammar Nazis like myself.

    Irregardless annoys me to no end. A friend of mine mocks those who use it by asking them if they didn't really mean to say 'nonirregardless'
     
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  34. #34
    m_stodd

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    Posted Jan 11, 2013
    It is acknowledged by some dictionaries as being a synonym for regardless, so I would say that it is a word.

    Irregardless of if it is a word or not, I use it more that I use 'regardless' simply because of people on this thread.

    And irregardless of if I use it or not, you can't interpret a word's meaning from it's letters, this is English dammit!
     
  35. #35
    emjay

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    Posted Jan 11, 2013
    "I could care less" originated as a sarcastic phrase.
     
  36. #36
    emjay

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    Posted Jan 11, 2013
    The infamous thief was practically invisible.
     
  37. #37
    dae06

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    Posted Jan 11, 2013
    Your "Prolly" right. :drunk: :)

    Sorry, I had to say that.
     
  38. #38
    MalFet

    /bɪər nɜrd/  

    Posted Jan 11, 2013
    ic i ácorde. þá eoforswín áswicon ús ac.
     
  39. #39
    dae06

    Well-Known Member

    Posted Jan 11, 2013
    Can you say that on this forum?????
     
  40. #40
    cheezydemon3

    Banned

    Posted Jan 11, 2013
    Just know that if I meet you and you say "irregardless" you aren't getting the job and you aren't getting the benefit of the doubt.

    So you want to sound unintelligent just to bug people? I think they call that trolling around here.
     
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