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In Search of the Perfect Pale Ale...

Discussion in 'Beginners Beer Brewing Forum' started by JacobInIndy, Apr 19, 2009.

 

  1. #1
    JacobInIndy

    Well-Known Member

    Posted Apr 19, 2009
    Anyone ever used Sorachi Ace with Centennial and Cascade? Seems to me it fits the mix pretty well, but just wondering.

    Here's the recipe:

    Partial Mash

    5 gal batch
    4 gal boil
    60 minute boil
    OG 1.044
    FG(should be) 1.010-1.012

    Nottingham yeast

    5lbs 2-row
    1lb Crystal 10L
    1lb Cara-Pils
    1lb Light DME(late addition)

    .25oz Centennial 10% (60)
    .25oz Sorachi Ace 14% (15)
    .75oz Centennial 10% (10)
    .75oz Sorachi Ace 14% (5)
    .5oz Cascade 6% (5)

    After 7 days, dry hop with 1oz each Centennial and Cascade.

    Everything went great, 1.044 after boil and 5 gals exactly into fermenter.

    Can't. Freaking. Wait. :rockin:
     
  2. #2
    moger777

    Well-Known Member

    Posted Apr 19, 2009
    Cool, sounds like a hoppy beer without being too bitter.
     
  3. #3
    The Pol

    Well-Known Member

    Posted Apr 19, 2009
    What is the predicted IBU?
     
  4. #4
    JacobInIndy

    Well-Known Member

    Posted Apr 22, 2009
    I don't have it in front of me, but if I remember correctly it was around 40-45.

    Oh, and FG came out to be 1.008! Seems no matter how high I mash, I always finish dry. Any ideas on how to fix that?
     
  5. #5
    ericm

    Well-Known Member

    Posted Apr 22, 2009
    what was the mash temp? (how high is high?)

    nottingham is a pretty attenuative yeast as well, you could consider something a little less so
     
  6. #6
    JacobInIndy

    Well-Known Member

    Posted Apr 22, 2009
    When I doughed-in it was at ~158. By the end it had dropped to about 154.

    I thought that a pound of Cara-pils would add enough unfermentables to make the FG a little higher. Does it actually add unfermantables, like malto-Dextrine does?

    Oh, and predicted IBU is 35.
     
  7. #7
    The Pol

    Well-Known Member

    Posted Apr 22, 2009
    Didnt realize, you are right next door.

    When it is done, I will be over to taste it and tell you what you need to do next.

    Id have expected the FG to be higher with a mash temp of 158F. The carapils should have added SOME unfermentables.

    Thermometer off?

    Ferment temp high?

    I dunno, Id expect it to have a higher FG too.
     
  8. #8
    JacobInIndy

    Well-Known Member

    Posted Apr 22, 2009
    Yeah, it's a cheapy thermo from Walmart, but it usually matches my other one, so I figured it was fine.

    I kept it at 68 all but one day, it got up to about 74, then I brought it back down to 68 and it's been there since.

    I just dryhopped with an ounce of Cent and and ounce of cascade, it tasted great at hydro testing.

    We shall see in about 3 weeks.

    Pol, you get your stuff at Great Fermentations?
     
  9. #9
    The Pol

    Well-Known Member

    Posted Apr 22, 2009
    Mmmm, no. Thier prices are CRAZZYYYYY high. If I am desperate I will, but I have 3 pounds of hops, 110# of grain and about 8 packs of yeast in stock here at home. I may get a sack of 2-Row there for $41 this fall, but I wont buy anything but the sack there.
     
  10. #10
    JacobInIndy

    Well-Known Member

    Posted May 7, 2009
    So, as expected this has minimal malt flavor. It is so dry, I can't believe it. It's kegged now, three weeks from the brew date.

    Will leaving this to age longer help at all? I've never had a beer that is too dry, but this is is .008, and that's a bit low for me.

    The hop profile is pretty much exactly what I expected, so that is good. Pretty good grapefruit with a touch of lemon from the Sorachi. The only problem is the lack of malt depth to back it.

    Any tips for improving this?
     
  11. #11
    BierMuncher

    ...My Junk is Ugly...  

    Posted May 7, 2009
    Reduce your mash time to 40-45 minutes and hold your temp at 157.

    Mash time plays a vital role in how far your beer attenuates.

    http://www.homebrewtalk.com/f36/controlling-attenuation-through-mash-times-60576/
     
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