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IIPA critique?

Discussion in 'Extract Brewing' started by mdawson9, Apr 18, 2013.

 

  1. #1
    mdawson9

    Well-Known Member

    Posted Apr 18, 2013
    Looking to brew this IIPA based on the "Brewing Classic Styles" book - I changed around some of the hops based on my current inventory. Any thoughts?

    Type: Extract Date: 4/21/2013
    Batch Size (fermenter): 5.00 gal
    Boil Size: 6.00 gal
    Boil Time: 90 min
    End of Boil Volume 5.25 gal
    Final Bottling Volume: 4.75 gal

    Ingredients

    8.0 oz Caramel/Crystal Malt - 40L (40.0 SRM) Grain 1 5.3 %
    7 lbs Light Dry Extract (8.0 SRM) Dry Extract 2 73.7 %
    8.0 oz Wheat Dry Extract (8.0 SRM) Dry Extract 3 5.3 %
    2.00 oz Chinook [13.00 %] - Boil 90.0 min Hop 4 93.5 IBUs
    2.00 oz Warrior [15.00 %] - Boil 90.0 min Hop 5 107.9 IBUs
    1.00 oz Simcoe [13.00 %] - Boil 45.0 min Hop 6 40.1 IBUs
    1.00 oz Columbus (Tomahawk) [14.00 %] - Boil 30.0 min Hop 7 36.2 IBUs
    2.25 oz Amarillo Gold [8.50 %] - Boil 0.0 min Hop 8 0.0 IBUs
    1.00 oz Simcoe [13.00 %] - Boil 0.0 min Hop 9 0.0 IBUs
    2.0 pkg Safale American (DCL/Fermentis #US-05) [50.28 ml] Yeast 10 -
    1 lbs 8.0 oz Corn Sugar (Dextrose) (0.0 SRM) Sugar 11 15.8 %
    4.00 oz Columbus (Tomahawk) [14.00 %] - Dry Hop 7.0 Days Hop 12 0.0 IBUs
    2.75 oz Amarillo Gold [8.50 %] - Dry Hop 7.0 Days Hop 13 0.0 IBUs

    Beer Profile

    Est Original Gravity: 1.080
    Est Final Gravity: 1.012
    Estimated Alcohol by Vol: 9.0 %
    Bitterness: 277.7 IBUs
    Est Color: 9.7 SRM
     
  2. #2
    lumpher

    Well-Known Member

    Posted Apr 18, 2013
    wow... looking for "rip your face off" ipa, are we? i think that would be nasty, and i love hops
     
  3. #3
    KeystoneHomebrew

    Well-Known Member

    Posted Apr 18, 2013
    That is going to be bitter as hell. Not that I wouldn't love it, but I'd cut the bittering (90min) addition down to maybe 1oz of Warrior. Throw the Chinook in anywhere in the last 10 minutes for some nice pine and spice flavor.

    I'd also skip the 90 minute boil and just do 60. You don't have anything there that requires you to spend another 30 minutes of your brew day boiling.
     
  4. #4
    mdawson9

    Well-Known Member

    Posted Apr 18, 2013
    in the book jamil said that its similar to pliney and the ibu's listed are around 286. so I wasn't meaning to do a rip the face ipa. just patterning after a respected beer.
     
  5. #5
    mdawson9

    Well-Known Member

    Posted Apr 19, 2013
    well now I'm concerned about the beer being undrinkable. again, its virtually the same as jamils pliney based IIPA. any IIPA experts or pliney fans want to comment on the hop schedule?
     
  6. #6
    Shakybones

    Well-Known Member

    Posted Apr 19, 2013
    No way in hell is Pliny >200 IBU. I'd guess much closer to 100, which is plenty bitter.
     
  7. #7
    hillhousesawdustco

    Well-Known Member  

    Posted Apr 19, 2013
    It looks absurdly bitter to me as well......but tons of people brew Pliny clones and they are 200+ Ibus with those massive bittering additions and folks seem to love 'em.

    Kal's 10gal recipe for instance: http://www.theelectricbrewery.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=25406

    Personally I'd take an ounce off of each of the 90 and 60 minute additions and add them at flameout.
     
  8. #8
    Shakybones

    Well-Known Member

    Posted Apr 19, 2013
    Is it really worth the price of all those hops? I mean, will you really enjoy those extra 100 IBUs? If so, knock yerself out!:rockin:
     
  9. #9
    Glynn

    Well-Known Member

    Posted Apr 19, 2013
    Read this

    486286.cache1.evolutionhosting.com/attachments/0000/6351/doubleIPA.pdf
     
  10. #10
    mdawson9

    Well-Known Member

    Posted Apr 19, 2013
    that's awesome and helpful! Thanks!
    I decided to drop the warrior and move the boil from 90 to 60. Now we're in the 160 IBU range.
     
  11. #11
    gcdowd

    Well-Known Member

    Posted Apr 19, 2013
    I've read that Pliny is about 95 IBU but when I made my clone (from a Russian River recipe) beersmith calculated it to be 300+ IBU, obviously it's not that high. Beersmith does not measure actual IBU so I trusted the recipe. Plus, I think people can't really taste much more than 100 IBU anyway. I'm not saying that this recipe is ok, just providing some references points
     
  12. #12
    mrmuskie

    Well-Known Member

    Posted Apr 19, 2013
    4oz columbus for dryhop... make sure you have a good year/lot of columbus or you could end up with onion/garlic soup... that being said columbus is by far my favorite dry hop....when its good. i would do 2 oz columbus and 2 oz amarillo IMO.
     
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