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Ideas for a broken chest freezer?

Discussion in 'Fermenters' started by stack, Aug 1, 2012.

 

  1. #1
    stack

    Well-Known Member

    Posted Aug 1, 2012
    It's official, my chest freezer has called it quits. I used it for a fermentation chamber as well as cold storage via a Johnson controller. I have been debating on what to do with it. A few thoughts I had were;

    1 - Perhaps convert it into a Peltier fermentation chamber. I'm not sure if this is even possible. I wonder how many cooling units I would need to easily cool it down to 38 - 34 degrees? I also wonder how complicated the circuitry would need to be.

    2 - I have an unused window air conditioner (two actually) that I could some how mount to the side of it. I know I would have to cut a very large hole and create some sort of support system. This is probably the cheapest option as I already have the parts and if the AC unit dies I have an exact match for a backup. The downside is that I would need to worry about the condensation off the back of the AC unit.

    3 - Buy another and trash the old one.

    Anyone have any other suggestions or thoughts on my ideas?
     
  2. #2
    crazyworld

    Well-Known Member

    Posted Aug 2, 2012
    I'd say if you're not in the position to buy a new one, make a frankenkeezer :) . Mount it higher as cold air is more dense and will sink once inside (or don't and just make sure you've got air movement inside). If it was me, I'd mount it so that the lid of the freezer sits right on the top of the AC (less cuts, easier to install, easier to insulate). This will also allow you to use a larger bucket to collect condensation water. Figure out what you're going to build the AC support from and keep it simple.

    If it starts to feel like it's not worth it while you're planning it, ditch it. Either hit up craigslist for a lightly used one or pick up a new one. They're really not too expensive and I'm not sure how old your other unit was but a newer one surely costs less to run.

    Nick
     
  3. #3
    beaksnbeer

    Well-Known Member  

    Posted Aug 2, 2012
    About the only thing that would IMHO kill my kezzer is a leak in the coil, most times it's just the relay/overload that fries out.
     
  4. #4
    stack

    Well-Known Member

    Posted Aug 2, 2012
    It's not so much about the money as it is about trying to find another freezer that is roughly the same size. This one is probably 15 - 20 years old and is alot deeper (front to back) then most new ones I have seen. I am able to fit four six gallon buckets in the deep part of this freezer. Plus I still have the compressor hump to put excess growlers or bottles. Lately when I have time to brew I try do two ten gallon batches to try to maximize the amount of beer I produce.

    Not to mention the hassle of carrying the freezer up from my basement and finding someone to scrap it.
     
  5. #5
    stack

    Well-Known Member

    Posted Aug 2, 2012
    The compressor runs, but it is not getting cold. This leads me to believe it is either a leak or a blockage. Either way it is not serviceable by any DIY methods that I am aware of.
     
  6. #6
    day_trippr

    We live in interesting times...

    Posted Aug 2, 2012
    Ditch the dead unit and start trawling your local Craig's List...

    Cheers!
     
  7. #7
    kingmatt

    Well-Known Member

    Posted Aug 2, 2012
    I use my dead chest freezer as a fermentation chamber in the cold winter months of PA. I have a small space heater that I put in one corner attached to my temp controller and it keeps the chamber at a constant fermentation temp in my cold basement all winter!
     
  8. #8
    bmbigda

    Well-Known Member

    Posted Aug 2, 2012
    "compressor runs but its not getting cold" is how every chest freezer meets its death. Finding someone to scrap it for free should not be a problem. I had mine out on the curb for a couple hours before someone took it. Just make sure you put a sign on it that says broken.

    the craigslist chest freezer market is flooded. watch it daily for a few weeks and you'll find a nice replacement
     
  9. #9
    stack

    Well-Known Member

    Posted Aug 7, 2012
    I haven't had any luck finding another freezer on craigslist yet so I think I'm going to try out the window AC idea. I'll let you guys know how it turns out. If it fails I will only be out a couple hours of my time and some scrap wood.
     
  10. #10
    bmbigda

    Well-Known Member

    Posted Aug 8, 2012
    is the output air cold enough to reach a total ambient temp of middle 30's? The output air will need to be somewhere in the 20's I'd imagine.

    you won't be able to have the chest freezer completely sealed I don't think, unless it's a very large one.
     
  11. #11
    Cromwell

    Well-Known Member

    Posted Aug 8, 2012
    Yannno, for a long, long time, ice boxes were insulated boxes with ice in them. You have an insulated box - just put a bag of ice in it and see how long it lasts. I bet it's a long time.
     
  12. #12
    matt99004

    Supporting Member

    Posted Aug 9, 2012
    Tip it on it's side and turn it into a smoker. That's what I did. Of course, then I went out and bought another freezer.
     
  13. #13
    Billybrewer09

    Well-Known Member

    Posted Aug 9, 2012
    Leave it the way it is and store all your grains and adjuncts in.
     
  14. #14
    dallasdb

    Well-Known Member

    Posted Aug 9, 2012
    Make a killer meat smoker!
     
  15. #15
    bmbigda

    Well-Known Member

    Posted Aug 9, 2012
    Any links to chest freezer/smoker conversion projects?
     
  16. #16
    matt99004

    Supporting Member

    Posted Aug 9, 2012
    No links, but this is what mine looks like. Light is failing, so the picture quality may not be too good.

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  17. #17
    stack

    Well-Known Member

    Posted Aug 9, 2012
    I love the idea of a smoker but my wife would probably not approve as I already have an offset smoker and a Weber kettle that I use.

    @matt - How are you heating yours?
     
  18. #18
    matt99004

    Supporting Member

    Posted Aug 10, 2012
    I have three options. The first is a dual element hotplate in the compartment where the compressor used to be. The second is a charcoal bed in the bottom of the smoker. The third is a charcoal bed about 4 feet away, underground. The smoke goes thru a rock-lined tunnel before entering the smoker - good when smoke but no heat is desired.
     
  19. #19
    dallasdb

    Well-Known Member

    Posted Aug 10, 2012
    I went to the thrift store and found an element, threw it in my busted mini fridge after drilling holes in the top for smoke and in the bottom side for the plug to come out and air to go in.

    Bottom line, I turned it on the first time with thermometer inside and walked away for 40 min to see if it would get hot enough. Came back to the inside literally MELTED. It bubbled up and was completely ruined!

    Lesson learned. Don't walk away that long.

    But side note, I really like the electric element as it gives consistent heat throughout the entire time. I know use it to smoke in a drum since I melted my mini fridge!
     
  20. #20
    stack

    Well-Known Member

    Posted Aug 20, 2012
    Thanks for making me check into this. I ran one of the AC units yesterday with the Johnson controller probe stuck into the cold air vent. The lowest temp that I saw was 48. That would be good enough for fermentation, but now low enough for cold crashing at 38 or below. I guess I will continue my Craigslist search. Hopefully I find something soon as it is time to start my fall beer brewing.
     
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