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I was told to force carb this way by my homebrew shop... will it work?

Discussion in 'Bottling/Kegging' started by nerdlogic, Jul 17, 2009.

 

  1. #1
    nerdlogic

    Well-Known Member

    Posted Jul 17, 2009
    I hooked up 25 psi to keg with it upside down and let the co2 bubble up through it, then i disconnected the keg and rocked it back and forth (agitated it) for a half hour. Then I leave it in the fridge for a few days and then let the pressure out through the valve. Then I bring the pressure up to 10-12 psi for serving.

    Is there a problem with this? will it over carbonate? will i get carbonic acid? will it be carbonated?
     
  2. #2
    Arkador

    Well-Known Member

    Posted Jul 17, 2009
    here is a better way....
    1: put the keg in the fridge at 30PSI for 2 days.
    2: disconnect and bleed pressure, reduce reg to 10-12psi
    3: reconnect and wait 1 week

    I don't like shaking the keg, as i overcarbed both times i did.
    I don't like turning my keg upside down, for fear of beer in my gas line.
     
  3. #3
    bdnoona

    Well-Known Member

    Posted Jul 17, 2009
    Why would you turn the keg upside down when you can just connect the gas line to the "out" beer post and have the dip tube run the CO2 to the bottom? I'm confused.

    Check this out for what I'm talking about: Kegging and Carbonating your Beer - BrewBoard
     
  4. #4
    GreenwoodRover

    me-no-r-no Nice Guy  

    Posted Jul 17, 2009
    Well thats kinda (IMO) a goofy to end up carbed in "a couple of days"

    I just carbed 2 different beers for a block party tomorrow.
    I started on monday by chilling them down to serving temp
    On tuesday I put the gas on at 40psi for 12 hours (overnight) I purged then readjusted the reg to 20psi for the next 36 hours. Purged and put at serving pressure (for my system 10-12 psi depending on the style). The samples i had last night were about 95% to perfectly carbonated.
    Granted this beer was "ready" before I even gassed it (ready meaning not green or hurried through fermentation or aging)
     
  5. #5
    bdnoona

    Well-Known Member

    Posted Jul 17, 2009
    I imagine this is the OP's first kegged batch. Everyone is really excited to get it on tap for the first few batches.
     
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    Arkador

    Well-Known Member

    Posted Jul 17, 2009
    true, but the reward for patience is always paid off, when it comes to homebrew.
    I try to give my beer 2-3 weeks to forcecarb with set/forget and at most hit it with 30PSi for 2 days, then wait a week after that
     
  7. #7
    david_42

    Well-Known Member

    Posted Jul 17, 2009
    Is there a problem with this? Yes
    will it over carbonate? No
    will i get carbonic acid? Yes
    will it be carbonated? No

    The head space in a keg is rather small, so this method won't work. You need much more CO2 than a single shot at 25 psi.

    If you agitated for 30 minutes with the CO2 connected, it will be carbonated.
     
  8. #8
    nerdlogic

    Well-Known Member

    Posted Jul 17, 2009
    Ok i turned the pressure on the tank up to 30psi and left it hooked up to the keg in the fridge....

    I'll leave this like this for 2 days, then im gonna disconnect and bleed off the pressure and reconnect at 12psi and leave for 1 week.


    good?
     
  9. #9
    Nugu

    Well-Known Member

    Posted Jul 17, 2009
    I hope everyone they told this to had in-line valves so they don't have to rebuild their regs.

    Edit: You may also consider just doing set it and forget it... it's an experience tasting the beer as it carbs. I'm doing it with a pretty bastardized Arrogant Bastard clone (that I'm calling Bastardized Bastard), in the last few days the taste has completely changed. I don't know how to describe it, but it's a good experience.

    God I'm a light weight though, one pint and I can already feel it.
     
  10. #10
    Arkador

    Well-Known Member

    Posted Jul 17, 2009
    Yep. don't be afraid to try it on the 3rd day (after it is reset to 12psi), it may be a little undercarbed, but that taste will hold you over till it is fully carbed.

    when you pull your first pint, it may be filled with all the sediment at the bottom of the keg, most people toss it, some drink it.

    the other advantage to taking more time to carb your beer is everything settles out, and you will have clearer beer.
     
  11. #11
    GilaMinumBeer

    Half-fast Prattlarian  

    Posted Jul 17, 2009
    Is there a problem with this? Yes, overkill.

    will it over carbonate? Yes.

    will i get carbonic acid? Definitely.

    will it be carbonated? Yes.
     
  12. #12
    nerdlogic

    Well-Known Member

    Posted Jul 17, 2009
    what creates carbonic acid? and do you all agree with the corrections i made?

    its sitting in my fridge now @ 30psi hooked up to the co2 tank.

    in 2 days im gonna disconnect it, depressurize it, and connect it at 12psi for a week. testing it in the middle.


    and i have carbonated before, but i only carbonated a bubbly girl beverage using the 30psi + shaking method + leaving it alone for a week. it was so bubbly.
     
  13. #13
    nerdlogic

    Well-Known Member

    Posted Jul 17, 2009
    will i still get carbonic acid?
     
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    GilaMinumBeer

    Half-fast Prattlarian  

    Posted Jul 17, 2009
    If you dissolve CO2 into H2O it will create some H2CO3.
     
  15. #15
    nerdlogic

    Well-Known Member

    Posted Jul 17, 2009
    thats carbonic acid? so is it good or bad if its gonna happen no matter what?
     
  16. #16
    GilaMinumBeer

    Half-fast Prattlarian  

    Posted Jul 17, 2009
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