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I think NB forgot to crush my grains..

Discussion in 'All Grain & Partial Mash Brewing' started by bnutting, May 11, 2007.

 

  1. #1
    bnutting

    Well-Known Member

    Posted May 11, 2007
    And I DON'T have a mill. Any other suggestions other than using a rolling pin and a cutting board?
     
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    homebrewer_99

    Well-Known Member

    Posted May 11, 2007
    I think someone mentioned a steam roller in another thread...:D
     
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    stout55

    Active Member

    Posted May 11, 2007
    But them in a freezer baggy and then use the roller, it works...
     
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    the_bird

    10th-Level Beer Nerd  

    Posted May 11, 2007
    If it's a lot of grain, more than two pounds, I'd complain to them and have them ship me crushed. Even doing two pounds with a rolling pin is an absolute PITA, and it's hard to get a good-enough crush. Pisser if it means you can't brew this weekend, though. :(
     
  5. #5
    bnutting

    Well-Known Member

    Posted May 11, 2007
    The crappy thing is I made my starter last night. I guess I could put it in the fridge and complain to NB to see if I can get them to send me crushed grain.

    It's 9 lbs worth on one batch and 8 lbs in another.

    The steam roller does sound handy though....my neighbor down the street has a small one!!??!!:drunk:
     
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    homebrewer_99

    Well-Known Member

    Posted May 11, 2007
    If you use a rolling pin be careful not to break the handle off...or else SWMBO WILL get back at ya...:drunk:
     
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    Tophe

    Well-Known Member

    Posted May 11, 2007
    no LHBS close by? Mine has a mill they would let me use if needed.
     
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    Sir Humpsalot

    Well-Known Member  

    Posted May 11, 2007
    Up to a pound or two of specialty grains, I'll just "crush" in a coffee grinder. Sure, it's brutal, but for a pound or two, you aren't too concerned with protecting the husks. Anything more than that, fuggedabouditt...

    Wht kind of grains were they? I don't think NB adjusts their mill and my experience has been that some of the smaller grains will be virtually uncrushed. In my case, the problem was with Halcyon Optic.
     
  9. #9
    Tophe

    Well-Known Member

    Posted May 11, 2007
    He has 17lbs of grain! Definatly complain. I would consider investing in my own mill if I was using that much.....but I can also buy them bulk right downtown.



     
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    Bobby_M

    Vendor and Brewer  

    Posted May 11, 2007
    Make sure you specified "crush" on the order or you'll just be a jerk if you complain. If it was their fault, you're still gonna keep these uncrushed and use them sometime right? I doubt they'll want you to ship back.
     
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    WOP31

    Well-Known Member

    Posted May 11, 2007
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    bnutting

    Well-Known Member

    Posted May 11, 2007
    The two batches that I'm going to make are:
    California Common:
    8 lbs 2-row pale
    1 lb Simpsons CaraMalt

    Cream Ale:
    7 lbs 2-row pale
    .75 lbs Gambrinus Honey Malt
    .25 lbs Dingemans Biscuit

    At least they don't "look" like they are crushed. At least if they are they're not crushed very well, I see a lot of whole grains in there.

    Now this may sound like a stupid question, but why use a freezer bag? Couldn't I just use a rolling pin and a cutting board? The grains seem like they are 'kind of' crushed. So I would just be crushing them a little, I think.
     
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    WOP31

    Well-Known Member

    Posted May 11, 2007
    I think that we need a picture to be sure.
     
  14. #14
    bnutting

    Well-Known Member

    Posted May 11, 2007
    I just called over there and they said to bring it on over.
    :drunk: Don't know why the hell I didn't think about those guys!!

    They seem pretty nice too..
     
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    the_bird

    10th-Level Beer Nerd  

    Posted May 11, 2007
    I'm ashamed, I haven't made it down to there yet. Got some nice-sounding beers on draft.

    Hey, maybe they'll sell you a bag or two of bulk grain, if you ever get yourself a mill!
     
  16. #16
    bnutting

    Well-Known Member

    Posted May 11, 2007
    Hey that's actually a good question. I'll have to have a conversation with them about that. I think I spoke to one of the owners on the phone and she said that she would be there around 9:00 am on Saturday and if I wanted to come by then before I wanted to start brewing she would let me in do both batches of grain for me.

    I'm impressed. I know their brew is good. They have a great sampler you can order which is small glasses of all their brews for the price of a normal glass of beer.

    Good stuff.
     
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    Waldo

    Well-Known Member

    Posted May 12, 2007
    Glad to hear you were able to salvage the day. I must be odd but the first thing I bought when I switched to AG brewing was a Barley Crusher mill, I figured I wanted to have more control over my brewing process and it starts with the crush. Get a Mill!!!
     
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    casebrew

    Well-Known Member

    Posted May 13, 2007
    During shipping, any uncrushed grains 'float' to the top. Have you checked out the bottom of the bag? It would be significantly flour-y if crushed.
     
  19. #19
    the_bird

    10th-Level Beer Nerd  

    Posted May 14, 2007
    So, how'd it go this weekend?
     
  20. #20
    bnutting

    Well-Known Member

    Posted May 14, 2007
    Great!
    When I got to Brew Works I asked/showed them the grains and they said that the grains looked like they were "kind of" milled. Not very well to say the least. We ran them through their small mill and there was a noticeable difference. She was very friendly and we had a chance to talk beer for at least a few minutes (I had to bring my two kids, so I did not have a lot of time to talk).

    Anyway later that day (Saturday) I mashed and brewed my California Common. If BTP is correct then I hit 75% doing a batch sparge. Temps were a little higher than I was shooting for. I preheated my MLT cooler with near boiling water and did not have the temperature drop that I was expecting. I will adjust BTP to compensate for that. Other than that I was right on the money with volume and gravity readings.

    All in all I chalk the whole thing up as a success.

    I would highly recommend anybody in the western Mass area to go and check out the Brew Works. She would not take any money for letting my use the mill and she simply said "think of it as one brewer helping another".

    She also said that they would be willing to sell some grains in bulk at cost. What they pay for them they will sell them for. Which I think is pretty cool!!
     
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