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How to add permanent volume markings to a kettle (illustrated)

Discussion in 'Kettles, Mash Tuns & Hot Liquor Tanks' started by itsgus, Mar 3, 2014.

 

  1. pablosbrewing

    Well-Known Member

    Posted Mar 19, 2014
    Not quite linear
    20C (68F) to 60C (140F) is 1.5% expansion
    20C (68F) to 100C (212F) is 4% expansion

    If you use an immersion chiller you might want to figure that in to your hot side markings.
     
  2. Huaco

    Well-Known Member

    Posted Mar 19, 2014
    What is meant by across the heart is coming in the body through one arm and leaving the body through the other arm.
    Don't be a smart -ass here people! A9 volt battery isn't going to do squat and I agree with this. People started posting about using power sources energized to much higher levels. Our at least having the potential to be energized at higher levels. I thought something needed to be said. I'm not an expert in electricity but I do know that it does not require a bolt of lightning or a jolt from a household power outlet to do harm. I was simply trying to make a point of safety... If you don't like it, keep your mouth shut. These smart - ass comments are not even close to constructive.
     
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  3. pelipen

    Well-Known Member

    Posted Mar 19, 2014
    I'm also adding whole leaf hop absorption in a tiered half ounce scale as a delta relative to the hot water mark.
    Ok I'm not, but please somebody build the quad-scale ubber pot and post pics. File it under "just because you can".
     
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  4. singybrue

    Supporting Member  

    Posted Mar 19, 2014
    Don't forget pre and post addition of water treatment salts!

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  5. opiate82

    Well-Known Member

    Posted Mar 19, 2014
    For me, I filled my pot 1 gallon at a time with cold water and very carefully marked a line at the edge of the water with a fine-tip sharpie. Then when I was taping off my lines I just barely covered the black line with the tape, making the bottom of my 1/8" thick etched lines the point where each volume is accurate with cold water.

    I was most concerned about accuracy with cold water as I can calculate everything else based off of that, but only if I started with an accurate measure of my initial strike and sparge water.

    Also, I will add the sharpie wasn't the best tool for making my initial marks because if you accidently touched the water it basically stopped working. If I do another pot I'll find something else to use.
     
  6. pelipen

    Well-Known Member

    Posted Mar 20, 2014
    Regular old #2 pencil works fine even under water, just don't wipe dry too hard
     
  7. MaxOut

    Well-Known Member

    Posted Mar 20, 2014
    I just used an ice pick to scratch a small mark on the kettle at each gallon all 60 of them. I used 100 degree F water measured by volume and its close enough for making good beer consistently. As long as you have consistency thats all that matters and if I'm off by 1/2 gallon on a 40 gallon brew I'm cool with that. A bunch of different marks on my kettle would just be confusing and a waste off time for me. If my OCD kicks in and I need the actual volume at a certain temp Ill do the math based on my 100 degree baseline.


    MaxOut Brewstat
     
  8. maierhof

    Well-Known Member  

    Posted Mar 20, 2014
    PLEASE be careful with the solution that is created from this process here folks - it is harmful. Period.

    Here is a quick quote from someone in my homebrew club:
    that being said - I am very fired up at the timing of this post, as I have just converted to keggles but not added my sight yet.
    I am truly looking forward to doing this weekend!

    Thank you for posting this idea - I honestly think you might have changed the actual sight glass market sales for the year already. Lol
     
  9. JINKS

    Fermentator Extrordinaire

    Posted Mar 21, 2014
    Added 1 gallon at a time, marked with crayon, then stuck in a metal strip to transfer the marks to, traced out on tape, used a exacto and presto. Here is mine. Thanks for the idea.:rockin:

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  10. harrke

    Well-Known Member  

    Posted Mar 21, 2014
    Very handy trick. I did one of my small batch kettles right before work. ImageUploadedByHome Brew1395402175.810046.jpg


    Ken.
     
  11. sablesurfer

    Well-Known Member  

    Posted Mar 21, 2014
    I CAN"T COME UP WITH A BREWERY NAME!!!!

    Sorry, had to vent that after seeing the logos and names. :)
     
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  12. masonsjax

    Well-Known Member  

    Posted Mar 21, 2014
    Psst, I'll tell you a secret. You don't need a name or logo. You can actually make beer without them! :D

    I never picked a name either, but would love to etch a logo on the side of my pot.
     
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  13. Keith66

    Well-Known Member

    Posted Mar 21, 2014
    Feline Foamworks

    Foamy Whiskers Brewing

    Heads & Tails Brewery

    Paw's Brewery

    Purrfect Brewing

    Snooty Cat Brewery

    Cat Scratch Brewing

    Cat's Meow Brewery

    Cat's Pajamas Brewery

    Pvssyfoot Beerworks

    ...or anything with one of your cat's names in it.

    Hope that helps! :mug:
     
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  14. smizak

    Well-Known Member

    Posted Mar 21, 2014
    I did this just to have fun with it, but I'm always surprised at how obsessed brewers are with nailing volumes directly in the kettle.

    I put the accuracy into my fermenter graduations, which was done with glass etching solution.

    I always aim to over-boil a little bit, 90min boils accomplish that with no issue. I rack into my fermenter, take a gravity reading. If I'm over my OG a little, add the appropriate amount of distilled water to the fermenter. Makes it much easier to dial in gravity and make volume measurements in a sanitary way.
     
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  15. Bigscience

    Well-Known Member

    Posted Mar 22, 2014
    For me accuracy in the kettle is important so you know you've sparged to collect enough. Final volume would be off due the the hops added and taking up room. The temp can be corrected for. If you know the starting volume and gravity, you can calculate the ending volume based off the gravity.

    As for etching fermenters, why? Do your same measuring and marking and then use a tape measure to see how high each mark is. Then you can make a spreadsheet to calculate a formula to tell you what your next batch is based on a height measurement.

    Also, is everyone measuring in gallons here? Anybody go with Quarts or Liters?


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  16. smizak

    Well-Known Member

    Posted Mar 22, 2014
    I was talking more post boil. I just find it much easier to top up to my desired gravity then trying boil exactly enough off.

    Why would I want to need a computer to find my fermenter volume? Plus it's pretty.

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  17. Schreiner

    Well-Known Member  

    Posted Mar 22, 2014
    Hmmm... I have a 15 gallon brew kettle, but 15 gallons at what temp?! This is going to drive me nuts!!!:drunk: LOL!
     
  18. mikeoholic

    Well-Known Member

    Posted Mar 22, 2014
    M I o


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  19. Redbeard5289

    Well-Known Member

    Posted Mar 22, 2014
    nice... can't wait to try it.

    Redbeard5289
     
  20. beaksnbeer

    Well-Known Member  

    Posted Mar 23, 2014
     
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  21. Keith66

    Well-Known Member

    Posted Mar 24, 2014
    Look folks, OP described a method using a fvcking Q-Tip, not a goddam pressure washer! Let's keep sh!t in perspective! I'd be curious to know how much of this stuff folks are producing... the final waste product, not the initial vinegar-salt solution. It can't be more than an ounce at most. So don't drink or snort it, okay? Geez!
     
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  22. smizak

    Well-Known Member

    Posted Mar 24, 2014
    Oh fuuuuuuu........
     
  23. Keith66

    Well-Known Member

    Posted Mar 24, 2014
    And yes, EVERYTHING is harmful in California, especially the politics.
     
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  24. HornetSparky

    Well-Known Member

    Posted Mar 24, 2014
    Stop marking your kettle and seek immediate spousal attention if you experience an erection lasting more than four hours. Do not mark your kettle while drinking alcohol to excess, as you may experience an unsafe drop in blood pressure or vomit on yourself. Consult your spouse before starting any home brewing project. This project is known to the state of California to cause vinegar to taste salty.


    Sparky
    Making beer and hard cider in Southern Virginia since 2011.
     
  25. giraffeman

    Well-Known Member  

    Posted Mar 25, 2014
    Dam I just purchased 2 sight glasses; If I only saw this two days ago I could have saved some $$.
    Oh well I'm going to try this on the outside of my kegs if I can find a stencil of some Hops or a cool logo of some sort.
     
  26. Bobby_M

    Vendor and Brewer  

    Posted Mar 25, 2014
    I like the idea of etching marks into the kettles but it's definitely not a cure-all for measuring your volumes in all cases. For those people who have multi-tiered systems with the HLT mounted up high, you're not going to climb a ladder to watch where the liquid matches up to interior volume marks. The other case is where you brew in a cold garage or outside, you're not going to be reading interior marks during the boil. Maybe it's just my New England air here, but my boil kettle looks like a volcano erupting and I can't see through the steam. I'm more likely to etch the outside of my kettles just behind the sight glass.
     
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  27. PackerfaninSanDiego

    Member

    Posted Mar 25, 2014
    yea and those that can't keep it in perspective are probably turds at every house party
     
  28. Keith66

    Well-Known Member

    Posted Mar 25, 2014
    LMFAO! :p
     
  29. abeasst

    Well-Known Member

    Posted Mar 25, 2014
    Where's everybody finding the sticker stencils for the numbers?
     
  30. squash1978

    Well-Known Member

    Posted Mar 25, 2014
  31. maierhof

    Well-Known Member  

    Posted Mar 25, 2014
    Say what you want...
     
  32. BeerGrylls

    Well-Known Member  

    Posted Mar 25, 2014
    It got smelly up in here. I think I'll unsubscribe now, thanks for ruining another thread.
     
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  33. Keith66

    Well-Known Member

    Posted Mar 25, 2014
    I have a 12 year old daughter who's tried all kinds of hazardous things with supervision. Yes, keep the level of hazard in perspective; don't blow it out of proportion. It's a yucky chemical solution, not nuclear waste.
     
  34. mtnagel

    Well-Known Member  

    Posted Mar 25, 2014
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  35. CA_Mouse

    Well-Known Member  

    Posted Mar 25, 2014
    Unfortunately I have to agree with you BG.
     
  36. Jetski

    Active Member

    Posted Mar 25, 2014
    I just wanted to say thank you for the great idea. I etched my kettle over the weekend and I'm very happy with the results. I'm never at a lack of something to do if I'm not brewing, keeping up with all of the DIY projects posted here!
     
  37. diodeart

    Well-Known Member

    Posted Mar 25, 2014
    Ha ha ha ha. My cats name huh? Ok.
    Sullivan Percival Fluffytoes lll Brewery. The beer is cat-tastic!

    Or maybe Litterbox Nuggets Brewery. Hairball........something.


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  38. Keith66

    Well-Known Member

    Posted Mar 25, 2014
    I'd say it's a fantastic thread with lots of great information, ideas and photos, and a few of the usual derailments. I'll definitely refer back when I want to do some etching. Thanks OP and others! :beer:
     
  39. iluvmysh

    Well-Known Member

    Posted Mar 26, 2014
    when i asked the supervisor at michaels, she showed me her stencil section. however, it wasn't in that section. there's a glass etching section that's somewhere else in the store. that's where i found mine.
     
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  40. pelipen

    Well-Known Member

    Posted Mar 26, 2014
    Same at Hobby Lobby. Go to where glass etching, stained glass, and clay modeling supplies are kept. They aren't with the other stencils in paper craft.
     
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