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How not to mash: a cautionary tale

Discussion in 'All Grain & Partial Mash Brewing' started by artbrau, Jul 26, 2009.

 

  1. #1
    artbrau

    Well-Known Member

    Posted Jul 26, 2009
    I was very excited to fire up my SABCO "Brew-Magic" RIMS for the first time in 10 years yesterday. I made a Biere de Garde styled after Markowski's "Artisanal" in Farmhouse Ales. It was a single-step infusion at 150 deg. for 75 min. Overall my brew day went very smoothly, considering how rusty I am with the work flow but there was one big problem.

    The basic procedure with the Brew-Magic is to mash in with water up to the false bottom, pour in the grain, fill from above to about one inch above the grain bed, then start recirculation. Two minor things deviated from the program. I had the recirc valve open all the way for a couple minutes at the start until I remembered to throttle back and the mash temp got to 155 for about 15 min until I tossed in a cup of ice at the top (I was rusty about the calibration procedure for the RIMS). At no time did I disturb the grain bed. Sparge went smoothly. Boiled 12 gal down to 10. The gravity of the first runnings was 1.080 and the OG of the batch was 1.052.

    uh-oh. The predicted gravity for this batch was 1.066 at an assumed 75% efficiency (I typically get north of 80%). What happened? Cleanup told the tale. The picture below shows the mash kettle tipped over as I emptied the grain. The darker areas are well rinsed grain. No sweetness at all. The lighter colored areas are very sweet tasting sticky grain. The lightest areas are dry grain! I estimate about 15% of the grain did not get into my beer.
    [​IMG]

    Sigh. Well the SWMBO likes the lighter stuff, anyway. What might I do differently? Well, the Brew-Magic documentation cautions about running the recirc wide open as the suction from below can compact the grain bed. I have also stirred the bed a bit in the past so I'll try that once at the beginning of the mash. Let's see if the SNPA clone I'm doing next fares better.
     
  2. #2
    bull8042

    I like 'em shaved  

    Posted Jul 26, 2009
    Just a small hiccup my friend. Sounds like everything else faired pretty well. So, all in all, congrats on a good job.
    (Bet you won't do that again though)
     
  3. #3
    BrewUnited

    Active Member

    Posted Jul 27, 2009
    All good, at least you are making beer. Always next weekend.
     
  4. #4
    Droot

    Brewing since 1991

    Posted Jul 27, 2009
    Feels good don't it? I took 9 years off, started about 3 months ago and have brewed every other week since.

    As some one said to me

    "Welcome back to the brewing"

    David
     
  5. #5
    bensyverson

    Well-Known Member

    Posted Jul 27, 2009
    Dude, don't sweat it. Without fail, every single time I do a mash, I'm 100% sure I've screwed it up irrevocably. Yet it ALWAYS comes out great. You should see my brewlogs. They're full of stuff like "Didn't hit target mash temp. Sparge temp too low. Stuck runoff took 1 hour. Forgot to vorlauf." Yet it always comes out great!

    We're not commercial brewers, so we don't need to hit targets precisely. RDWHAHB!
     
  6. #6
    Scut_Monkey

    Well-Known Member

    Posted Jul 27, 2009
    Maybe you should get back to basics. I'll trade you my basic setup for yours and we will call it even. Believe me I'm taking a loss on this deal....Sound good?

    Just kidding, chalk it up to a "relearning" experience and enjoy the resulting beer and the great setup you have.
     
  7. #7
    Brewsmith

    Home brewing moogerfooger

    Posted Jul 27, 2009
    Get a big spoon or paddle and stir?
     
  8. #8
    bensyverson

    Well-Known Member

    Posted Jul 27, 2009
    +1... quick stir every 10 minutes at least.
     
  9. #9
    Elfmaze

    Well-Known Member

    Posted Aug 2, 2009
    I believe the sabico systems are specifically no stir. They say you get better repeatability that way
     
  10. #10
    Synovia

    Well-Known Member

    Posted Aug 2, 2009
    Not if you're getting doughballs you don't.
     
  11. #11
    elkdog

    Well-Known Member

    Posted Aug 2, 2009
    I'm one town over, and will take the beer off your hands if the memories are too painful to bear.
     
  12. #12
    artbrau

    Well-Known Member

    Posted Aug 5, 2009
    "repeatability is the hobgoblin of little minds," or something like that.
     
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