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How did i get this color from two row?

Discussion in 'General Homebrew Discussion' started by fitchbrew, Feb 22, 2012.

 

  1. #1
    fitchbrew

    Member

    Posted Feb 22, 2012
    This recipe was my first all Grain and py contained pale two row malt and cascade hops. When it went it the bottle it was very pale in color


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  2. #2
    Gear101

    Well-Known Member

    Posted Feb 23, 2012
    what did the whole bill look like?
     
  3. #3
    passedpawn

    Some rando  

    Posted Feb 23, 2012
    What was the OG? Were there ANY other grains?
     
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    bufitfn

    Well-Known Member

    Posted Feb 23, 2012
    Only 2 row can't look like that! It was pale when bottling?
     
  5. #5
    bufitfn

    Well-Known Member

    Posted Feb 23, 2012
    Yeast?
     
  6. #6
    maffewl

    Well-Known Member

    Posted Feb 23, 2012
    If there were no other grains in the grain bill... my guess is that you (or whoever crushed it) had some roasted grain powder on the rollers and bottom of the crusher from a previous brew and it made it's way into the grist. Or you reused a bucket that had the same thing.
     
  7. #7
    badlee

    Well-Known Member

    Posted Feb 23, 2012
    How about small boil volume and long boil?
     
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    usfmikeb

    Well-Known Member

    Posted Feb 23, 2012
    How did you clean the bottles?
     
  9. #9
    fitchbrew

    Member

    Posted Feb 23, 2012
    The whole grain bill was only 11 lbs of two row and a couple ounces of cascade hops. Like I said it was my first all grain and I just wanted a starting point to see how my system works on a very basic recipe. It was pale as bud light a few months ago but now has turned amber in color and tastes quite a bit more malty and caramelized. The only thing I can think if is oxidation?
     
  10. #10
    Raenon

    Well-Known Member

    Posted Feb 23, 2012
    I'm thinking this...
    How much water did you have pre-boil, did you top-up, or perhaps even from a warmer than usual mash?
    Surely extracted tannins must account for _some_ color, otherwise steeping grains wouldn't change extract brews as much as they do.
     
  11. #11
    fitchbrew

    Member

    Posted Feb 23, 2012
    Pre boil volume was about 5 gallons. I ended up with about 3.5 after 60 mins. Could be..
     
  12. #12
    mux

    Well-Known Member

    Posted Feb 23, 2012
    The beer fairy took your SMaSH and gave you amber.
     
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    wyzazz

    Well-Known Member

    Posted Feb 23, 2012
    You accidentally grabbed a bottle from a previous batch of beer. ;)
     
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    dlaramie08

    Well-Known Member

    Posted Feb 28, 2012
    This
     
  15. #15
    Posted Feb 28, 2012
    If the grain bill is accurate and everything else also is, my guess would be that the beer got highly oxidized.

    I had a Kolsch from a place in Seattle this wk-end that was almost the color of a Pale Ale. I returned it. Yes, oxidation.

    MC
     
  16. #16
    SpottedDogBrewing

    Hmmm, BEER!  

    Posted Feb 29, 2012
    U have a mix:-/ LHBS should blow out the grain mill.
     
  17. #17
    mux

    Well-Known Member

    Posted Mar 1, 2012
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    This my 2 row FF7c single malt single hop blend.
     
  18. #18
    cmmartin

    Member

    Posted Mar 2, 2012
    Mux - I actually recently bottled a 2row/FF7'cs SMaSH. Has about another week of coditioning left. I would have to agree with others though... Oxidation. How does it taste?
     
  19. #19
    milldoggy

    Well-Known Member

    Posted Mar 2, 2012
    +1
    Below is a extreme example, but showsthe effects of oxidation.

    I recently got about 40 bottles of 30 year old wine and champange. Some bottles had plastic corks and where oxodized. These where apple wine, which is straw,golden in color and they looked like a porter. The bottles that were corked and were in goood shaped, looked like they were supposed too. Plastic cork, porter. Oxidation will darken and ruin a fermented beverage fast.
     
  20. #20
    Marshi

    Active Member

    Posted Mar 4, 2012
    My guess would be Malanoidins, i.e. long boil with not much volume. How fresh were the hops? Perhaps aged hops created some off colors
     
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