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Hops choice for biab smash beer

Discussion in 'BIAB Brewing' started by LostHopper, Jul 28, 2015.

 

  1. #1
    LostHopper

    Well-Known Member

    Posted Jul 28, 2015
    What would be a good hops choice for a biab smash beer?

    What might be a bad hops choice?
     
  2. #2
    sudbuddy

    Hang on, I had something for this

    Posted Jul 28, 2015
    High alpha dual purpose hops would be good. Usually the point of a SMaSH is to try a base malt and a hop that you've never tried before so I would go have a chat with the folks at your LHBS and see what they have. There are a lot of cool new dual purpose hops out there to try so have fun!
     
  3. #3
    SnakeRidge

    Super Rad  

    Posted Jul 28, 2015
    Cascade would be the classic, but you're probably familiar with that one. Centennial is a good choice (my favorite), but Sudbuddy is right. SMaSH beers are a great platform to try out new hops and see what you like/don't like. Whenever a new hop comes out, I do a Maris Otter SMaSH with the new hop to take it for a test drive.
     
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  4. #4
    sudbuddy

    Hang on, I had something for this

    Posted Jul 28, 2015
    +1
     
  5. #5
    jschein

    Well-Known Member  

    Posted Jul 28, 2015
    I just did a Maris Otter/Mosaic and it smells terrific.
     
  6. #6
    bcltoys

    Well-Known Member

    Posted Jul 28, 2015
    I like Maris otter and Citra or Cascade.
     
  7. #7
    TexasWine

    Well-Known Member  

    Posted Jul 29, 2015
    Pilsner + Mosaic = Yellow Rose by Lone Pint = delicious
     
  8. #8
    drunkEnough4U

    Well-Known Member

    Posted Jul 29, 2015
    I am becoming very partial to Northern Brewer
     
  9. #9
    masskrug

    Well-Known Member

    Posted Jul 29, 2015
    Centennial, Cascade, Simcoe, Citra, Chinook.
     
  10. #10
    kh54s10

    Supporting Member  

    Posted Jul 29, 2015
    Read the description of the hop characteristics. Use one that sounds interesting. I did a Maris Otter with Nugget hops, which are usually for bittering. It was quite different but good.
     
  11. #11
    enkamania

    Well-Known Member  

    Posted Jul 29, 2015
    Another vote for Maris Otter and Citra
     
  12. #12
    GrainToGlass

    Well-Known Member

    Posted Jul 29, 2015
    I love smash IPA's.

    Maris Otter + El Dorado = Rich and tropical
    Golden Promise + Amarillo = Slightly sweet and tangerine
    2Row + Simcoe = Light, crisp and piney, resiny citrus (Favorite so far)
     
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  13. #13
    hopkincr

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    Posted Jul 29, 2015
    I have done 3 SMaSH recipes and all were great. 1. Golden Promise/Cascade, 2. 2-Row/Cascade, and 3. Marris Otter/Willamette.
     
  14. #14
    schiersteinbrewing

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    Posted Jul 29, 2015
    Pilsner/Saaz is my favorite.
     
  15. #15
    Iseneye

    Well-Known Member

    Posted Jul 29, 2015
    This isn't an answer but I find it amusing when brewers ask for a BIAB recipe as if the recipe would be any different using other all grain methods. The question is the same regardless of the method :) (I think....)
     
  16. #16
    Bobby_M

    Vendor and Brewer  

    Posted Jul 29, 2015
    Vienna/Mosaic
     
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  17. #17
    Kharnynb

    Supporting Member  

    Posted Jul 29, 2015
    vienna/ northern brewer is good.

    I anyway prefer vienna/MO instead of basic 2-row for smash.
     
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  18. #18
    relicdog

    Well-Known Member

    Posted Jul 29, 2015
    I used 2 oz at 60min 2 oz at 5 min and 2 oz at flameout . What was your hop schedule and how did it turn out? I just bottled mine yesterday and can't wait to try it out..
     
  19. #19
    LostHopper

    Well-Known Member

    Posted Jul 29, 2015
    Since I've never done any other all grain brewing method I wasn't sure if it did make a difference.
     
  20. #20
    Black Island Brewer

    An Ode to Beer

    Posted Jul 29, 2015
    Sampled a munich (10L) mosaic smash recently - quite tasty!
     
  21. #21
    sudbuddy

    Hang on, I had something for this

    Posted Jul 29, 2015
    I just made a Stout Malt/HBC 438 SMaSH that smells fantastic, can't wait to try it!
     
  22. #22
    SnakeRidge

    Super Rad  

    Posted Jul 29, 2015
    Another $0.02 worth of my advice;

    Don't get hung up on the published 'use' of the hop, i.e. bittering vs aroma. One of my very favorite SMaSH's to do uses lots of Columbus in the last 20 minutes all the way to flame out.
     
  23. #23
    sudbuddy

    Hang on, I had something for this

    Posted Jul 29, 2015
    Columbus is pretty widely accepted as a dual purpose hop these days. I've often wondered what a Warrior or Magnum SMaSH would taste like, but I don't really want to have a whole 5 gallons of it
     
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  24. #24
    SnakeRidge

    Super Rad  

    Posted Jul 29, 2015
    Yeah, I guess that's the point I was trying to make. Seems like people are less rigid about hop 'use' than when I first started, but I still see people holding on to the idea.

    I did a Pilsner/Magnum (Magnum P.I.ls of course). I did additions at 60' 20' and 1'. It was pretty mild, but I didn't use a whole lot. It wasn't bad, just that I prefer more hop character like from Saaz, Tettnang, etc.

    Galena was surprisingly good in a couple of SMaSH's I did. Again, not a huge amount of character but nice.
     
  25. #25
    Bobby_M

    Vendor and Brewer  

    Posted Jul 29, 2015

    I've been drinking the hell out of it recently. Brewed Mid May. It's just a touch sweet, but pretty well balanced. Certainly sits very well as a Pale Ale vs IPA.


    Recipe: Vienna Mosaic Smash TYPE: All Grain mashed at 152F

    Style: American Pale Ale
    ---------------------
    SRM: 5.6 SRM
    IBU: 40.6 IBUs Rager
    OG: 1.054 SG
    FG: 1.014 SG
    BU:GU: 0.755 Est ABV: 5.3 %
    EE%: 75.00 % Batch: 8.00 gal Boil: 10.08 gal BT: 60 Mins

    Total Grain Weight: 16 lbs Total Hops: 5.00 oz oz.

    Amt Name Type # %/IBU
    1.00 oz Mosaic (HBC 369) [11.70 %] - Boil 45.0 m Hop 2 31.3 IBUs
    1.00 oz Mosaic (HBC 369) [11.70 %] - Boil 15.0 m Hop 3 9.3 IBUs
    3.00 oz Mosaic (HBC 369) [11.70 %] - Boil 0.0 mi Hop 4 0.0 IBUs
     
  26. #26
    Bobby_M

    Vendor and Brewer  

    Posted Jul 29, 2015
    Has anyone used 100% MUNICH 1 in a SMASH? I'm a little scared of it being insanely malty but I was thinking of doing it as an amber with a ton of Falconer's 7C.
     
  27. #27
    brisboy

    Well-Known Member

    Posted Jul 30, 2015
    Or you could go a completely different route to a non-IPAish SMASH. One of my favourite brews so far has been:

    Pilsner malt
    Spalt hops (4%) at 60, 30, 15 and 5 mins
    Belle Saison Yeast

    Was delicious and spicy.
     
  28. #28
    TexasWine

    Well-Known Member  

    Posted Jul 30, 2015
    Another smash I've done is a Firemans 4 clone, a blonde ale. 2 row and Crystal hops. Fantastic summer beer.
     
  29. #29
    cantrell00

    Well-Known Member

    Posted Jul 30, 2015
    Citra/Simcoe
     
  30. #30
    Brauer

    Well-Known Member

    Posted Jul 30, 2015
    Marris Otter and Amarillo.
    That yellow Otter is a tasy little beast.
     
  31. #31
    Rock_Toy

    Well-Known Member

    Posted Jul 30, 2015
    Anyone try a LemonDrop SMASH? I don't think that it would lend itself to bittering much but I have a pound and would like to give it a spin. Maybe Marris Otter/LemonDrop?
     
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