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Homemade Bread Thread

Discussion in 'Cooking & Pairing' started by deadfall, Feb 3, 2014.

 

  1. ChugachBrewing

    Well-Known Member

    Posted Mar 31, 2014
    I'll second the tartine method (as I have previously).

    It also works without the folding as well. The last bread I posted above I did not fold once until it was time to shape. I feel the shaping is the most critical step.
     
  2. HoppyDaze

    Supporting Member  

    Posted Mar 31, 2014
    what is this, the metric system?
     
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  3. bottlebomber

    Well-Known Member

    Posted Mar 31, 2014
    I may as well live in Europe myself. I do all my baking measurements in metric, my blueprints at work are metric, I program in metric and I use metric inspection equipment. Even my Ecco boots are metric.
     
  4. ChefRex

    I once had a thought,  

    Posted Mar 31, 2014
    I measure in grams also, quick and easy.
     
  5. HoppyDaze

    Supporting Member  

    Posted Mar 31, 2014
    do you actually weigh your ingredients? Or just remember one cup equals so many grams?
     
  6. ChefRex

    I once had a thought,  

    Posted Mar 31, 2014
    I weigh,not like I don't have any scales in the house;)
     
  7. HoppyDaze

    Supporting Member  

    Posted Mar 31, 2014
    In college, I knew what 3.5 grams of plant material looked like.
     
  8. finsfan

    Well-Known Member  

    Posted Mar 31, 2014
    I think that's a prerequisite to graduate. :D
     
  9. terrapinj

    Well-Known Member

    Posted Mar 31, 2014
    the problem with measuring by volume is inconsistency unless you sift the flour 1st since it compresses in the bag/container when stored
     
  10. bottlebomber

    Well-Known Member

    Posted Mar 31, 2014
    There are so many factors that affect what a "cup" of flour weighs, from the mill to the variety to the hydration level to how hard you packed the measuring cup. Maybe there's a big pocket of air in the corner you can't see. Volume measurements simply aren't accurate enough to get CONSISTENT results. Not that you wont get good results, but you'll always end up chasing that one really good batch you made. Measure by weight and nail it(almost) every time.
    I learned that a nickel weighs 5 grams.
     
  11. MrNic

    Well-Known Member

    Posted Mar 31, 2014
    Since we're on the topic of measuring by weight. Does anyone have an easy way to convert from volume to weight?
     
  12. ChugachBrewing

    Well-Known Member

    Posted Mar 31, 2014
    Weight = volume*density*gravity

    specific to flour, though? Nope. All depends on the flour, the concentration (air pockets as mentioned above) sifting, etc. Go by weight, its the easiest.

    Just since I'm a physicist, grams = mass, not weight :) Please don't deviate from this thread, its just for laughs.
     
  13. MrNic

    Well-Known Member

    Posted Mar 31, 2014
    What I mean is, if I have a recipe that calls for a specific amount of flour in cups, how would that translate to pounds or ounces? Or would I just need to find a recipe that lists weight instead of volume?
     
  14. bottlebomber

    Well-Known Member

    Posted Mar 31, 2014
    Most of the better cooking and baking books have all 3 - volume, english, metric. But conversions are easy, and a simple web search will give you all you need. In fact I'd be amazed if there wasn't a chart you could download and print out.
     
  15. deadfall

    Well-Known Member

    Posted Apr 1, 2014
    A little Rye and Whole wheat. 30% in both. Over night proof.
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    I cut this after about 20min rest. Breakfast. Hard to beat fresh warm bread!
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  16. LabRatBrewer

    Lost in a Maze  

    Posted Apr 1, 2014
    Watching some youtube videos re: shaping bread (I'm trying to make two toredo "pain au levain" loafs), I see that my definition of "lightly floured" surface is wasting tons of flour.
     
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  17. bottlebomber

    Well-Known Member

    Posted Apr 1, 2014
    I went through that as well. The other thing I did a couple times was fold a massive pocket of flour into my loaf, which was not a good thing to have.
     
  18. Melana

    Up to no good....  

  19. bottlebomber

    Well-Known Member

    Posted Apr 1, 2014
  20. LabRatBrewer

    Lost in a Maze  

    Posted Apr 1, 2014
    Well no torpedoes, but not bad looking.

    !!!!!!bREAD 3.jpg
     
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  21. Melana

    Up to no good....  

    Posted Apr 2, 2014
    Yum!

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  22. bottlebomber

    Well-Known Member

    Posted Apr 2, 2014
    Spent grain?
     
  23. dan6310

    Member

    Posted Apr 2, 2014
    After seeing all the wonderful breads everybody is making and knowing I have a lot to learn on my bread making, I ordered a couple books, Chad Robertson's Tartine Bread and Peter Reinhart's Artisan Breads Every Day.
    These two seem to be the most popular references people are using so why not learn from the best.
    I have watched a few YouTube videos from both and I am in awe on the high hydration bread making process. I can't wait for the books to come in and start making this type of bread.



    Dan6310
     
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  24. Melana

    Up to no good....  

    Posted Apr 2, 2014
    White, whole wheat, spent grain flour, and 5 grain cereal.
     
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  25. deadfall

    Well-Known Member

    Posted Apr 2, 2014
  26. Salpino

    Well-Known Member

    Posted Apr 2, 2014
    For those that use the Tartine method, how long did it take for your "starter" to be ready for the first batch? I've kept a French sourdough starter for several years now and I've abused it more than I'd like to admit. What is the long-term feeding regimen like for the Tartine starter?
     
  27. ChugachBrewing

    Well-Known Member

    Posted Apr 2, 2014
    This pretty much sums up what you really need from the tartine book... and its on one page rather than 48 pages. You're looking at 2-3 weeks, unless you can find someone with a starter to mail to you. I'm happy to share mine (which is actually from Tartine) if people cover shipping/handling costs.

    http://www.marthastewart.com/907240/chad-robertsons-tartine-country-bread
     
  28. bottlebomber

    Well-Known Member

    Posted Apr 2, 2014
    I've been guilty of severe starter abuse in the 6 months or so that I've been in stewardship of the starter that ChefRex sent me. Once I let it sit on top of my fridge for two weeks without and feeding. When I finally opened it it was so acidic it made my eyes and nose burn, and it had developed a thick orange skin. I dumped all but a tablespoon off the bottom, added it to some fresh flour and water, and brought it back full circle. I'm not sure what this kind of mistreatment does to the yeast/bacteria balance, but lately it's been awesome to work with.
     
  29. PJoyce85

    Well-Known Member

    Posted Apr 4, 2014
    Don't mean to break up the discussion here but after looking at this thread for weeks and seeing all of the delicious bread, I'm finally going to try. Took a recipe from weekendbakery.com.

    My first "poolish"!!!

    ImageUploadedByHome Brew1396629644.116775.jpg


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  30. ChefRex

    I once had a thought,  

    Posted Apr 4, 2014
    Oh my poor babys!
    Kidding,it's very resiliant, I don't do a lot of baking in the heat of summer and it sometimes goes months in the back of the fridge unloved, a couple of feedings and it's good to go. I've been using the same culture for well over ten years and haven't killed it yet.
     
  31. bottlebomber

    Well-Known Member

    Posted Apr 4, 2014
     
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  32. LabRatBrewer

    Lost in a Maze  

    Posted Apr 4, 2014
    I thought this was cool. If you send Friends of Carl a SASE the will send you a dried starter from the 1847 Oregon Trail. Here: http://carlsfriends.net/source.html Carl who died in 2000, at 80, would give the starter to anyone who sent a SASE, now a group of volunteers keeps it going. The starter is over 150 years old. Maybe its already common knowledge, but I thought it was interesting.
     
  33. bottlebomber

    Well-Known Member

    Posted Apr 4, 2014
    Not to me it isn't... that's really cool! I may have to give that a try. I'd like to do some side by sides with another great starter.
     
  34. ChefRex

    I once had a thought,  

    Posted Apr 4, 2014
    You would have the same strain, that was where I got mine many years ago.
     
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  35. bottlebomber

    Well-Known Member

    Posted Apr 4, 2014
    Right on man!
     
  36. LabRatBrewer

    Lost in a Maze  

    Posted Apr 5, 2014
    Its interesting that they send it out in dry flakes. They also tell you how to dry it out. Seems like an interesting way to store some in case I kill the "chef" or starter (still working on terminology). I have brewing yeast in a frozen yeast bank, rinsed yeast ready for quick reuse, yeast having a party on my spin plate, dry in commercial packets (US05) in case of emergency. Now I am concerned about the life and happiness of bread yeast. Yeast have cleverly used our symbiotic relationship to make me become a yeast caretaker. :mug:
     
  37. PJoyce85

    Well-Known Member

    Posted Apr 5, 2014
    Here are the results of my first attempt. I'm pretty pleased!

    ImageUploadedByHome Brew1396697528.590798.jpg ImageUploadedByHome Brew1396697546.647407.jpg


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  38. dan6310

    Member

    Posted Apr 5, 2014
  39. ChefRex

    I once had a thought,  

    Posted Apr 5, 2014
    I know I'd be happy if that was my first attempt at making bread!
     
  40. PJoyce85

    Well-Known Member

    Posted Apr 5, 2014
    Thanks guys!
    I was a little worried about trying the 80% hydration French baguette recipe (from The Weekend Bakery) as a beginner but went for it.




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