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Guate Brewing

Discussion in 'General Homebrew Discussion' started by Curtis2010, Jan 25, 2012.

 

  1. Curtis2010

    Well-Known Member

    Posted Oct 15, 2014
    Cool. Will be in Antigua soon and will check it out.

    Back in Guatemala/Belize for most of Nov-Dec, mostly at home on the Rio Dulce. Guest house is available if any of the group want to make a road trip.
     
  2. pacayaforhops

    Well-Known Member

    Posted Oct 16, 2014
    It's 5 Ave. 9-31, zona 1

    AFAIK it's still closed indefinitely, I've received no update on the state of affairs regarding the bar being sold or not.

    As far as a get together, I can do it weekdays for lunch, fridays all day or saturday nights until the first week of november and then after the last week of november.
     
  3. Curtis2010

    Well-Known Member

    Posted Oct 16, 2014
    Guys,

    I will be in Guate City from Oct 28-29. Probably leave on Thursday the 30th. I will not have been to the Rio so wont have anything to share, but be happy to buy a round of beer.

    Let me know if a get together anytime on those dates works out.
     
  4. pacayaforhops

    Well-Known Member

    Posted Nov 1, 2014
    I'm sorry I couldn't meet up, but I've been swamped with midterms, maybe we'll catch up next month.
     
  5. Curtis2010

    Well-Known Member

    Posted Nov 2, 2014
    Sorry I missed you. On the way back to Rio today.

    Good luck!
     
  6. Curtis2010

    Well-Known Member

    Posted Nov 3, 2014
    One way to stay out of your brew is take off traveling for a while...about 10 months in this case. Just got home this afternoon and tapped into a "Smoky Braggot" I left conditioning...yumm.

    Late last year, I made my first attempt at roasting my own grains. I shot for an amber roast using "kahun nuts" (Belizean name). These are a palm nut, about golf ball size, rich in oil, which give off a strong oily coconut flavored smoke. They fall by the truck load at my place here in Guatemala and are mostly tossed into the jungle or burnt. I use them to smoke fish too, but they are so potent you have to go light or the result is over powering. So I used a mix of charcoal and kahun nuts to roast/smoke the grains. Grain was 2-row. I hit the amber target and the grains had a nice potent smoky coconut taste. I assume a similar effect could be created by using more commonly available coconuts.

    I decide to use this roast to brew a "Smoky Braggot". Brewed it in January and then we left to travel...just got home this afternoon. Of course, one of the first things I did was tap into the keg of Smoky Braggot!

    Also first time to use my DIY spunding valve. Left it set at 12 PSI and the resulting light carbonation is about right for a braggot I think.

    I accidently over pitched signficantly (re-using yeast slurry) so the body is thinner, and the sweetness less, than I would like, bit its still pretty damn tasty with a noticeable, but not excessive, smoky coconut finish. And at about 8% ABV, I've got a nice little buzz going.

    More later, I'm busy drinking! ;-)
     
  7. pacayaforhops

    Well-Known Member

    Posted Nov 10, 2014
    Good news: Red Star is probably changing hands and reopening within the next 2-3 weeks. Craft beer will still be on the menu.
     
  8. Curtis2010

    Well-Known Member

    Posted Nov 13, 2014
    Hey, maybe I can catch it this time, should be thru the City again in about 1 month.
     
  9. Lube

    Member

    Posted Dec 4, 2014
    Hi to all, i have started a nanobrewery here in Guatemala. If anybody is interested in malts I have a good stock of Briess malts. Price Q. 40.00/pound.
     
  10. Curtis2010

    Well-Known Member

    Posted Dec 4, 2014
    Cool. What's it called? What are you brewing? Where's it served? When's the tour? ;-)
     
  11. Lube

    Member

    Posted Dec 7, 2014
    no name, the brewery is called IXBALANQUE, I brew IPA, Stout and Red ALE. I can produce around 3000L/month, need clients.
     
  12. gmezapapa

    New Member

    Posted Dec 7, 2014
    Im interested in trying some of you beer and why not trying out the grains you have. Let me know how to get them.
     
  13. Lube

    Member

    Posted Dec 7, 2014
    I will bottling IPA at the end of the week, ready to sell at dec. 19, just a little green but drinkable. To reach a complete flavor you can give it more maturation time.
     
  14. pacayaforhops

    Well-Known Member

    Posted Dec 8, 2014
    That's great, I'll have to swing by some day along with red star's new owner, I was holding this back for a while until I had an assured date, but they're planning on re-opening this friday with an IPA and a Scotch 80 shilling, they'll probably be interested in more variety.
     
  15. Curtis2010

    Well-Known Member

    Posted Dec 9, 2014
    So...I will be in Guate City Sunday night thru Tuesday night. Any chance we could schedule a brewery visit for the CA4 group one of those evenings?
     
  16. Lube

    Member

    Posted Dec 12, 2014
    I suppose that it is possible to arrange a visit. Maybe on monday or tuesday in the afternoon.
     
  17. Curtis2010

    Well-Known Member

    Posted Dec 12, 2014
    I can do that. Anyone else?
     
  18. gmezapapa

    New Member

    Posted Dec 12, 2014
    I could do either day
     
  19. pacayaforhops

    Well-Known Member

    Posted Dec 12, 2014
    I'm also down for either day, Red Star pushed re-opening back to next thursday, though I should still be able to take the owner over.
     
  20. Curtis2010

    Well-Known Member

    Posted Dec 13, 2014
    Lube, would Tuesday afternoon work? Time?
     
  21. Lube

    Member

    Posted Dec 16, 2014
    Hi, sorry but I see your message right now. Today it´s little difficult because I have to do some diligences in the afternoon but tomorrow morning I plan to produce IPA and if you can visit me around 11:00 am will be great. Call me to my phone 55171006
     
  22. pacayaforhops

    Well-Known Member

    Posted Dec 16, 2014
    I'll definitely take you up on that.
     
  23. hopbrad

    Well-Known Member

    Posted Dec 17, 2014
    Is the bottled water we get here in Central America considered RO water? here in Nica, the brand is Fuenta Pura.
    should i be messing with it at all when mashing? (ive finally gotten access to base grains here)
    ive read that 100% RO water isnt good to use if your not adding minerals and such back in. i could cut it with some well water if thats the case. (its extremely hard water here by the beach).

    EDIT: i mostly brew IPAs and American Pale Ales.
     
  24. pacayaforhops

    Well-Known Member

    Posted Dec 17, 2014
    First off I'd like to thank Lube for having me over today, he's a most gracious host and I very much enjoyed our chat.

    Regarding RO water: most commercially available bottled water is RO water with a few salts added, most of the time it'll have some sodium nitrite or nitrate, magnesium sulfate and calcium chloride, so it's not like it's "mess with your osmotic pressure" RO water.

    That being said, for IPA's and APA's you'll want medium hardness with "lots" of sulphate and medium chloride: See the attached file.

    What I usually do is use either straight RO water (from an RO filter at Red Star Bar) or filtered (ceramic sediment cartridge and activated charcoal cartridge filter), sometimes I'll add some epsom salts for a more pronounced bitterness or calcium chloride if I want a clearer maltier beer. I won't usually add anything though. No need to bother cutting it with well water

    Since you're mashing I'd also recommend adjusting pH with food grade citric or phosphoric acid to somewhere around 5 (ideally 5.2-5.4), since it affects the reaction speed for amylase (5.3 is the sweetspot for alpha and beta amylase activity)

    Water profile by city.JPG
     
  25. Curtis2010

    Well-Known Member

    Posted Dec 18, 2014
    Lube, sorry I was not able to visit today, but we were travling back to Panama. Hopefully I, and more folks from the group, can catch you next time.
     
  26. Curtis2010

    Well-Known Member

    Posted Dec 18, 2014
    Re RO/soft water. I have very soft well water. One advantage of that is it is great for brewing lighter beers like Pils, but you can also adjust it for other styles. Its harder to remove mineral, but very easy to add them.
     
  27. hopbrad

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    Posted Dec 18, 2014
    thanks for the feedback, i just checked out a bottle, looks like:
    calcium 25mg/l
    magnesium 8mg/l
    flouride .5mg/l

    my first go round i wont add anything to see what im working with but will pick up some gypsum or epson salt. i have some citric acid on hand but currently dont have a way of testing pH, will also have to get a meter or strips
     
  28. hopbrad

    Well-Known Member

    Posted Dec 29, 2014
    I've gotten a hold of a couple of the water reports from the water system in the community I live in. what do you think?

    water.jpg

    water 2.jpg
     
  29. pacayaforhops

    Well-Known Member

    Posted Jan 1, 2015
    If at all possible, use water only from well M-6, it-s still pretty hard, but it's lower chloride than M-3, M-6 seems to be somewhat close to Dublin water according to the values I've found, it would benefit from acidification, either with citric acid or roasted grains; or RO/ion exchange treatment.

    M-3 is all over the place with (bi)carbonate, sulphate and chloride, it'll muddle the malt flavor to nothing.
     
  30. pacayaforhops

    Well-Known Member

    Posted Mar 15, 2015
    Yours truly was partly featured in an article by siglo21 (Guatemalan news paper)- In case anyone's interested.

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    SAM_0308.jpg
     
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  31. Curtis2010

    Well-Known Member

    Posted Mar 17, 2015
    Cool. Link to the article?
     
  32. pacayaforhops

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  33. rappyfreak

    Well-Known Member

    Posted Mar 17, 2015
    Wayne is famous! Good stuff, have not been able to visit yet. Congrats!
     
  34. Curtis2010

    Well-Known Member

    Posted Apr 30, 2015
    Que paso en Guate?

    Very quiet on this thread. What are you guys brewing?

    Has anyone been by to visit Brew Master Wayne and try his beers?

    Sounds like a great venue for group meeting!

    Seems I'm migrating to Panama...spending more and more time here. Hope to get back to Guate long enough to do a little brewing this year...and then probably migrate my brewing to Panama also.
     
  35. firefarmer

    Member

    Posted May 4, 2015
    Unfortunately after only participating in one Guate Brewing gathering I've migrated far from Guatemala all the way to Istanbul. I wish I was there to sample some of Wayne's brews. Istanbul is pretty dry on the beer front.
     
  36. pacayaforhops

    Well-Known Member

    Posted May 5, 2015
    It's been pretty quiet on my end as well, I got another job and I'm wrapping up with my studies this year, so I haven't had much time to brew at home any more (it's been like 4 months already). Hopefully once I'm done with school I can get into it more seriously again.
     
  37. Curtis2010

    Well-Known Member

    Posted May 16, 2015
    Wow, big move. What took you to Istanbul?
     
  38. Curtis2010

    Well-Known Member

    Posted May 16, 2015
    Is the craft brew pub still open? A different job than that one I assume?

    I'm gradually migrating to Panama. We are trying to figure out how to fit some time back in Guate this year into our plans and its looking tight. Not much point in going back just for a short visit.

    Anybody wanna buy a cool place on the Rio Dulce? ;-)
     
  39. pacayaforhops

    Well-Known Member

    Posted May 17, 2015
    Yes, it's still open.
     
  40. Hemileia_foxtrot

    New Member

    Posted May 28, 2015
    Hello all, I live in Guate and am sorely missing brewing my own beer although I have turned out a pretty good mead. Instead of sifting through the 60+ pages of this group I though that I would ask about how to get malt and hops. Yeast is not a problem for me since I culture my own. I am really glad that I found you guys and I hope to maybe meet you in the future. Most of my homebrew equipment is still in the US but I have a serviceable settup. Looking forward to hearing from you guys! Cheers!
     
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