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Discussion in 'General Homebrew Discussion' started by Curtis2010, Jan 25, 2012.

 

  1. Curtis2010

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    Posted Dec 23, 2013
    Just roasted and smoked two lbs of 2 Row for the Coco Ahumado Porter recipe I'm creating.

    Roasted as an Amber Malt (350F for 30 min) then smoked for 1 hour over coconut husks and nuts. Smoking temp was higher than planned (200F), but did not noticeably effect the color. Color is about right for an Amber and has a nice smoky/coco flavor.

    I plan to add some shredded roasted coconut in secondary...I can almost taste it!
     
  2. hopbrad

    Well-Known Member

    Posted Dec 23, 2013
    Wow that sounds damn awesome! keep us posted.

    I received the DME from Aseal and brewed a basic pale ale yesterday to see what were working with.
    4 gallons
    6 lbs DME, no steeping grains
    .75 oz magnum @ 60
    1 oz FF @ 15
    1 oz Cascade @ 5

    it looks way lighter than the DC LME. id say 5-6 SRM.
    OG clocked in at 1.061
     
  3. Curtis2010

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    Posted Dec 23, 2013
    Be interesting to see how that ferments. Please post the results.
     
  4. pacayaforhops

    Well-Known Member

    Posted Dec 24, 2013
    No, I usually use bottled water for all my brewing needs, sour tastes could be 2 things: wild bugs or tannins, considering you used higher kilned malts; the later is more likely.

    Can you please describe the mashing/sparging process for the stout? I'll see if there's any chance tannins might have come out during either one.
     
  5. unionrdr

    Homebrewer, author & air gun shooter  

    Posted Dec 24, 2013
    Feliz Navidad y'all! I'll be celebrating tonight with my Whiskely stout & robust vanilla porter. I hope you folks down there will have good beers & good times!
     
  6. Curtis2010

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    Posted Dec 24, 2013
    Feliz Navidad a Usted también! Disfrutala!

    I'm originally from Mississippi, so I liked your "Feliz Navidad ya'll". May have to use that again soon with all the Texans down here on the Rio Dulce. ;-)
     
  7. hopbrad

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    Posted Dec 24, 2013
    it was an extract brew so i only steeped the specialty grains.
    8 gallon batch.
    I steeped the following in 5 gallons of water for 20 minutes at 160
    1 lb of chocolate malt
    1/2 lb black patent
    1/2 lb of roasted barley

    then added 3.5 gallons of water, brought up to boil. added 1/2 the extract. followed my hop schedule of a 60 min, 15 and 5 min addition. added the other half of extract and brown sugar at 15 mins.
     
  8. unionrdr

    Homebrewer, author & air gun shooter  

    Posted Dec 24, 2013
    My family is from Corley,WV,so it's a familiar expression to me. Def fits!
    That's a lot of chocolate malt,black patent & roasted barley. I use less than 6oz of each in my porter & stout.
     
  9. pacayaforhops

    Well-Known Member

    Posted Dec 24, 2013
    Yeah, that was a bit much on the dark malts/barley, probably extracted enough tannins to make it acidic (most tannins are precursors to gallic and caffeic acids). For future 8 gal batches, I'd recommend 1 lb darker caramel malt (80+L) for some color and less than 1 pound of dark malts/barley altogether. If you want more color, you can grind the malt/barley down to a powder or add molasses.
     
  10. unionrdr

    Homebrewer, author & air gun shooter  

    Posted Dec 24, 2013
    It'll likely take a while to mellow out.
     
  11. Curtis2010

    Well-Known Member

    Posted Dec 24, 2013
    Now that I see the recipe, have to agree, lot of strong roasty stuff so maybe tannins.

    What do tannins do over time? Any hope of them mellowing?
     
  12. pacayaforhops

    Well-Known Member

    Posted Dec 24, 2013
    Unfortunately, they don't mellow out much, they're as oxidized as it gets. They can, however, be stripped with gelatin finings; though it takes a lot of finings to bring the taste down, or you can mask them with a bit of extract/sugar, they'll still be present though.
     
  13. Curtis2010

    Well-Known Member

    Posted Dec 25, 2013
    Bummer, good to know future reference.
     
  14. Curtis2010

    Well-Known Member

    Posted Dec 25, 2013
    Feliz Navidad Y'all. ;-)

    Bottling some samples for Christmas Dinner. Hope to have some left on my return trip to the City.

    Brew menu attached.

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  15. pacayaforhops

    Well-Known Member

    Posted Dec 27, 2013
    I also hope you have some left, I'd be looking forward to them. Let me know when you'll be back in town; I'm out of commission starting the 30th through 01/02/14, but I'll be available afterwards until the 2nd week of january. Also hope we get more people to come over this time around.

    Hope you've all had a merry Christmas & will have happy new year.
     
  16. Curtis2010

    Well-Known Member

    Posted Dec 28, 2013
    I think I will bottle a few samples and set them aside to make sure I have some.

    My brewing season was way too short this year. Will have to work out more time on the Rio next year.

    Just booked our flights today for Jan 29. Probably head to the City a day or two before. Any body up for a beer or 3 on the evening of the 28th?
     
  17. pacayaforhops

    Well-Known Member

    Posted Dec 28, 2013
    I'll let you know a week or two from now, my class schedule's not showing up right now; I think I'll be done by about 7:30 PM though.
     
  18. Curtis2010

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    Posted Dec 28, 2013
    OK. Just bottled 1 liter each of Pilsner, Schwarzbier, and Braggot. Tucked them away in the cooler where hopefully we will stay out of them until then.
     
  19. hopbrad

    Well-Known Member

    Posted Jan 3, 2014

    after 12 days the krausen dropped and not much airlock activity so I took a gravity reading. It came in at 1.032. :confused: so i gave it a swirl and will let the temps rise. fingers are crossed.
    it tasted decent. its a bit hazy, had carbonation and a little off smell, which leads me to think fermentation is still going on.

    pale ale.jpg
     
  20. Curtis2010

    Well-Known Member

    Posted Jan 3, 2014
    Cool. Bring a sample on the 28th if you can make it. Be interesting to see how the Aseal DME works out. Does 8PM at Cheers (Z10, Calle 13) work for you?

    I just started another Braggot using home roasted/smoked grain and local honey. Will still be young by then, but probably tasty enough to sample (wort was yummy with a touch of roasty coconut taste). I think it will be sort of like a Schwarzbier Coconut Braggot (a bit roasty with coconut and honey flavors). Will leave the rest to condition while we are in Panama (till October).
     
  21. hopbrad

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    Posted Jan 4, 2014
    Unfortunately I cannot make it. I am in the process of opening a hotel/restaurant so time and money to travel are at a minimum for me right now. I will keep updating on the Pale Ale. I may take a gravity reading again tomorrow or Monday.
     
  22. nsaubes

    Well-Known Member

    Posted Jan 4, 2014
    Hi all! And Happy new year!

    Sorry guys, I've been really absent from the discussion, mostly because I finally opened my restaurant, so I was really busy! I should be able to join you on the 28th though. Of course I would have proposed my place, but the 28th is tuesday, and the restaurant is only open for lunch on mondays and tuesdays...Too bad. But the good point is that I'll have more time time to share with you guys. I hope I'll be able to bring a couple of brews, cause my stock is seriously disminishing and I've not had time to brew lately! Anyway it will be nice to meet you guys!
     
  23. Curtis2010

    Well-Known Member

    Posted Jan 4, 2014
    Nsaubes , welcome back. Thought you might be busy w the resturant.

    Post info on the resturant here. Maybe I can get by for luch.
     
  24. Curtis2010

    Well-Known Member

    Posted Jan 4, 2014
    Wow, another restaurateur! Where is it located? What kind of food?
     
  25. hopbrad

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    Posted Jan 5, 2014
    It will be in Playa Santana, Tola, Nicaragua.
    3 rooms to rent with a restaurant/bar.
    depending on a continuing availability of brew ingredients, id like to sell some of my beer. and we'd do alot of bar type food - sandwiches, burgers, tacos and whatnot. my business partner is in charge of the menu moreso than me.

    The Aseal malt test batch reading came in at 1.032 again after raising the temp and giving it a stir. i may repitch another s-05 or add some amylase enzyme.
    any suggestions?
    i have 49 more pounds of the stuff, so ill be pretty bummed if its not good for brewing.
     
  26. pacayaforhops

    Well-Known Member

    Posted Jan 6, 2014
    Amylase isn't probably going to help, since the extract is already mashed before dehydrating; if anything, re-pitching a starter culture or using a more aggressive yeast strain is probably in order (make sure not to go over 1.04 on the starter if you go that way).
     
  27. Curtis2010

    Well-Known Member

    Posted Jan 10, 2014
    Just reorganized my storage cooler and found a bottle of Cervesa Rosa I had forgotten about. This was a basic light ale with Rosa Jamica. Well past its serve-by date, but not bad...a pleasant surprise.

    Cerveza Rosa Clipboard01.jpg
     
  28. Curtis2010

    Well-Known Member

    Posted Jan 11, 2014
    Yeah, forgot you are in Nica. We really like Nica so maybe another excuse for a road trip!
     
  29. pacayaforhops

    Well-Known Member

    Posted Jan 13, 2014
    OK, my schedule's in, I can make it on the 28th before 5:00 PM or after 9:00PM... or I can also make it on monday the 27th after 7:00PM, for a shameless gipsy cursed week...
     
  30. Curtis2010

    Well-Known Member

    Posted Jan 14, 2014
    Ok. Lets try the 27th at PM.
     
  31. nsaubes

    Well-Known Member

    Posted Jan 14, 2014
    Here's the info for the restaurant: https://www.facebook.com/lapero.gt

    I think I'll be able to come on monday...
     
  32. Curtis2010

    Well-Known Member

    Posted Jan 15, 2014
    Or, we could always come to you. What hours are you open in the evenings ? (Sorry, I don't have a FaceBook account).
     
  33. pacayaforhops

    Well-Known Member

    Posted Jan 15, 2014
    12-3 PM mondays and tuesdays, I could also make it during that time frame in case you're interested.
     
  34. Curtis2010

    Well-Known Member

    Posted Jan 15, 2014
    I'm up for that, we could drop by for lunch and bring some sample brews. Maybe show up about 2:30, have a late lunch and Nsaubes could join us to sample axfew beers after closing time?

    Nsaubes, would that work?
     
  35. nsaubes

    Well-Known Member

    Posted Jan 16, 2014
    That sounds nice. I'll confirm during the weekend, but that should work for me.
     
  36. Curtis2010

    Well-Known Member

    Posted Jan 17, 2014
    Good. Tentatively the 27th at 2:30 and we will wait for your confirmation.

    Address?
     
  37. pacayaforhops

    Well-Known Member

    Posted Jan 17, 2014
    @ L'Aperó: Vía 5 2-24 local 5 zona 4
     
  38. Curtis2010

    Well-Known Member

    Posted Jan 18, 2014
    Thanks.
     
  39. nsaubes

    Well-Known Member

    Posted Jan 20, 2014
    Ok guys, I'll wait for you at the restaurant! Come before 3pm if you want to have lunch there! We have real good pizza!
     
  40. Curtis2010

    Well-Known Member

    Posted Jan 22, 2014
    Will plan to be there by 2:30. Definately want to try the Pizza.

    Sent from my GT-P5110 using Home Brew mobile app
     
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