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first all grain brew: h2o questions

Discussion in 'All Grain & Partial Mash Brewing' started by pennisim, Dec 7, 2010.

 

  1. #1
    pennisim

    Well-Known Member

    Posted Dec 7, 2010
    Hello-
    I am attempting my first all grain brew in 2 days (started the starter today):
    The only part that I am confused on (so far) is the gypsum/baking soda additions to the water since I am using distilled water.

    Recipe:
    Batch size: 5.00 gal Boil Size: 6.34 Gal Boil time: 60min

    7.5lb Pale Malt (US)
    1.0lb Oats, Flaked
    0.75lb Chocolate Malt
    0.50lb Caramel/Crystal Malt- 60L
    0.25lb Roasted Barley
    2.00oz Goldings, East Kent: 5.00% 60min
    4.00gm Calcium Chloride (Mash 60min)
    5.00gm Gypsum (Mash 60min)
    6.00gm Baking Soda (Mash 60min)
    1.00lb Maple Syrup (B) boil
    Yeast: Irish Ale (White Labs starter) (WP-004 I believe?)
    Est OG: 1.058 Est FG: 1.015 Est Alcohol: 5.65% Bitterness: 34.2IBU Est Color: 31.5 SRM
    Mash: Single infusion, Medium Body
    Total Grain Weight: 10.00lb
    Sparge Water: 2.92gal
    Sparge Temp: 168.0F
    60min: MAsh in 12.5 qt Water at 169.3F (For 154'F step temp)
    10min: Mash out: 7.00qt water at 198.2'F for 168.0'F step temp.


    I followed the recipe for Nerdalicious's Bacon Beer but added Maple Syrup and I will be adding 4lb of bacon to the secondary. Please let me know what you think or if I should change the water profile at all. I already picked up all the grain, etc. I mainly wanted to try doing distilled water to see what the difference was from my tap water. Thanks for the help in advance. -Matt
     
  2. #2
    ajf

    Senior Member  

    Posted Dec 7, 2010
  3. #3
    pennisim

    Well-Known Member

    Posted Dec 7, 2010
    Thank you ajf. I have gotten to the point where I understand the water chemistry part somewhat - but read too much that I am confusing myself now if that makes sense. I am following the suggestions of my LHBS on adding the minerals to try to make it ideal conditions for a stout - I believe this makes the profile similar to that of Ireland, high in bicarb. If anyone else has any suggestions I appreciate them since I still have to run back to the homebrew shop to pick up a new thermometer.
     
  4. #4
    CBK

    Well-Known Member

    Posted Dec 7, 2010
  5. #5
    strat_thru_marshall

    Well-Known Member

    Posted Dec 7, 2010
    wait....your first ag brew is a BACON STOUT??

    That is amazing. :mug:

    In my experience I've always made good tasting beer with just filtered tap water. I think when going all grain it's more important to get your process and system 100% dialed in before you start messing around with water chemistry. Just my opinion though.
     
  6. #6
    pennisim

    Well-Known Member

    Posted Dec 7, 2010
    After using the spreadsheet (and reading a bit):
    I have decided to use mostly distilled water with maybe 1gall of tap water and changed the additions to:
    3grams Gypsum CaSO4
    4grams CaCL2
    5grams Baking Soda
    added to mash

    and
    1.7grams CaSO4
    2.2grams CaCl2
    2.8grams NaHCO3
    This results in (Mash+Sparge):
    150 Calcium, 0 Mg (will get some through tap water), 116 Na, 163 Cl, 142SO4
    this leads to a Chloride to Sulfate Ratio of 1.15 which is a balance between bitter and malty (more toward malty side)
    The estimated mash ph is 5.27

    Nothing is a better motivator than bacon in my opinion.
     
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