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EBay fish tank controller build using Wal-mart parts

Discussion in 'Fermenters' started by Misplaced_Canuck, Aug 8, 2011.

 

  1. cmj141

    Active Member

    Posted Feb 20, 2012
    What is the name of the one that reads in Fahrenheit ? I can't find it anywhere on eBay. The one shown goes for $15-20 on eBay. For 25-30 u can get a PID.
     
  2. JuanMoore

    Supporting Member  

    Posted Feb 20, 2012
    Not sure if it has a name or model number. Just go to e-bay and search "aquarium temperature controller f". There are a whole bunch of different sellers, but they're pretty much all ~$17 shipped.

    Here's one-

    http://www.ebay.com/itm/Digital-Temperature-Controller-Thermostat-Aquarium-F-/220957637173?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item337219fa35#ht_4801wt_1396
     
  3. cmj141

    Active Member

    Posted Feb 20, 2012
  4. DeafBrew

    Member

    Posted Feb 20, 2012


    Effen brilliant! can't believe this never occurred to anyone before.

    So if I wanted to do this with the single stage, I would just wire a dedicated line to power the temperature controller and then plug the thermostat wires into the "loading" terminals and that would be it, correct? I can probably trace the switch wires to the back of the unit where they could be wired into the controller without the need to drill into the chamber.
     
  5. JuanMoore

    Supporting Member  

    Posted Feb 20, 2012
    Yep, that would work.
     
  6. bcrderrick

    Active Member

    Posted Mar 12, 2012
    Need a little help programming mine. I figured out how to adjust the degrees. For f1-f4. Controller works properly I think. I don't know what f1 - f4 are though. I'm assuming from another post that f 1 is to be set at the temp you want the fridge at? F 2 is the swing??? And f 3 is the compressor delay? F4 no idea? Any help would be greatly appreciated. Thanks guys
     
  7. JuanMoore

    Supporting Member  

    Posted Mar 12, 2012
    Yours didn't come with directions? Assuming you're using the STC-1000 and not the single stage unit, you've guessed F1-F3 correctly, and F4 is for calibrating the sensor.
     
  8. bcrderrick

    Active Member

    Posted Mar 12, 2012
    No directions. It is a stc-1000 though. Thanks for your help. How do I calibrate the sensor?
     
  9. Misplaced_Canuck

    Well-Known Member  

    Posted Mar 12, 2012
    The sensor is calibrated by using a bowl/glass of water in which you put the sensor, and a regular glass/lab/electronic thermometer. If they read the same, you're golden. If one is higher than the other, adjust by the number of degrees in the proper direction.

    MC
     
  10. JuanMoore

    Supporting Member  

    Posted Mar 12, 2012
    Yep, or a glass of crushed ice with a little water, and a small pot of boiling water. The ice water should settle out at 0C. You'll need to figure out what temp water boils at for your altitude.

    Although probably not necessary, here's a set of instructions for that unit-

    http://mashmaster.com.au/UserFiles/2321-Files/file/brewmate.pdf
     
  11. bcrderrick

    Active Member

    Posted Mar 12, 2012
    Thanks guys!
     
  12. lonepalm

    Well-Known Member  

    Posted Mar 15, 2012
    ordered 3 today for keezer & ferm chamber
     
  13. flushdrew42

    Well-Known Member

    Posted Mar 16, 2012
    not to hijack, but i built a temp controller w/ an STC off of ebay, and wonder if i can put a magnet (from a computer hard drive) inside the plastic project box to hold it on the side of the fridge?

    will there be any adverse effects to the controller with a magnet that close?
     
  14. chuckstout

    Well-Known Member

    Posted Mar 17, 2012
    Thanks misplaced, got the parts for 2 and the controllers in the mail, one for the keezer and one for the ferm box
     
  15. BoxBrewer

    Well-Known Member

    Posted Mar 22, 2012
    Subscribed!
     
  16. jeffsciv23

    Member

    Posted Mar 28, 2012
    lol well eff. i got a little too excited reading this thread and pulled the trigger a bit to quickly. then as i read i noticed i should have looked at the voltage. so i am the proud owner of two temp controllers, a 12V and a 110 hahaha
     
  17. jeepinjeepin

    Well-Known Member

    Posted Mar 29, 2012
    I'm guessing you meant to get 2 110v units? What do you have in the 12v unit? I might be interested in it.
     
  18. jeffsciv23

    Member

    Posted Mar 29, 2012
    No I just meant to buy one 110 but bought the 12v without reading closley. It was $15.88 shipped. Figured ide throw it in a yardsale for same price. But let me know if you have a use for it.
     
  19. jeepinjeepin

    Well-Known Member

    Posted Mar 29, 2012
    Yeah. Planning a recirculating water bath for fermentation temp control. I have a 12vdc power supply and access to a 12vdc pump.
     
  20. jeffsciv23

    Member

    Posted Mar 29, 2012
    Ill let you know when it gets here from china or wherever its coming from lol
     
  21. Polarbeer

    Well-Known Member

    Posted Mar 29, 2012
  22. JuanMoore

    Supporting Member  

    Posted Mar 29, 2012
  23. chuckstout

    Well-Known Member

    Posted Mar 29, 2012
    Built one today works great tested with a small heater and a fan, thanks again love this site! My wife always like are you on your BeerBook again lol
     
  24. Polarbeer

    Well-Known Member

    Posted Mar 29, 2012
    Ok thanks. Looks like I'm gonna go with Celsius then.
     
  25. jeffsciv23

    Member

    Posted Apr 4, 2012
    has anybody mounted one of these in the collar yet? just wondering because i have only been seeing them mounted in project boxes and junction boxes.
     
  26. JuanMoore

    Supporting Member  

    Posted Apr 4, 2012
    Yep, mine is installed in the collar of my keezer, and I've seen a few other on here that have done the same.
     
  27. johnlvs2run

    Well-Known Member

    Posted Apr 4, 2012
    My love controller gets 100 degrees, which depending on use, may or may not make a difference.
     
  28. jeffsciv23

    Member

    Posted Apr 4, 2012
    thanks. think thats what im gonna do also. do i just use longer wires and mount the junction box with the outlet on the back of the collar?
     
  29. JuanMoore

    Supporting Member  

    Posted Apr 4, 2012
    I flush mounted the controller in the collar on the back of the keezer, and then ran extension cord wires down to an exterior single gang junction box with the outlet in it that I placed in the compressor area. I thought about mounting a standard single gang box in the collar and running the wires through the hollow part of my collar, but I wanted to be able to push it as close to the wall as possible, and didn't want the plugs keeping it away from the wall.
     
  30. dmbaty

    New Member

    Posted Apr 6, 2012
    Not sure if anyone has commented on this yet (didn't see a reply) but you definitely want to prevent short cycles on the compressor. Using a container of water would be one way, but you may want to consider changing the hysteresis (or "differential") to something more than a single degree to help with this even more.
     
  31. JuanMoore

    Supporting Member  

    Posted Apr 6, 2012
    And max out the compressor delay setting (10 min?).
     
  32. Misplaced_Canuck

    Well-Known Member  

    Posted Apr 6, 2012
    You can set the compressor on a time delay with the STC-1000. And set a larger swing.

    MC
     
  33. dragonbreath11

    Well-Known Member

    Posted Apr 9, 2012
    Btw can anyone post a link to a dual stage that reads in F?
     
  34. CGVT

    Senior Member

    Posted Apr 9, 2012
  35. JuanMoore

    Supporting Member  

    Posted Apr 9, 2012
    To get a dual stage controller that displays in Fahrenheit you'll need to spend more money. The cheap e-bay controllers don't exist in that configuration. If you really don't want to do the simple temperature conversion, here's one that meets your criteria-

    http://www.dwyer-inst.com/Product/T...witches/DigitalPanelMount/SeriesTSS2/Ordering
     
  36. rifraf

    Well-Known Member

    Posted Jun 3, 2012
    I just built this guy yesterday, and tested it out on a lamp. Worked well...lamp was on until I stuck the sensor in a cup of ice water and it turned off. Today I went and plugged my chest freezer into it and nothing. The lamp doesn't work either.

    The temp controller has power and is reading the temperature properly. The lamp and freezer both work independently of the controller. Is my most like problem simply that a wire wiggled itself loose? Chest freezer is 1.3A normal operation 9A startup. The STC-1000 is a 10A/220V. Someone in a different thread posted that he took his apart and the relays are 10A/220V or 15A/110V.

    Thanks!
     
  37. rifraf

    Well-Known Member

    Posted Jun 3, 2012
    Well scratch that. It's working now. I originally had the compressor delay set to 10 minutes, but I thought that would have reset itself when I unplugged the controller to move it. Looks like it just had to be plugged in for >10 minutes for that lock to go away.

    Sweet! Kegs here we come.:mug:
     
  38. carlisle_bob

    Well-Known Member

    Posted Jun 3, 2012
    Hi

    The STC-1000 works perfectly fine with the sensor taped to the wall of a freezer. You simply need to set a wide enough control window (F2) so it does not go nuts. The beer in the freezer never sees the wall temperature, so it just sits there in the middle of the control window.

    I know this sounds a bit odd, but here's a check you can do. Take your "sensor in a water bottle" setup and let it run. Put another sensor on the wall of the fridge. It's already moving all over the place as the compressor cycles. There's no difference in how things actually run with the two approaches.

    The advantage of tape to the wall is you have one less thing to clutter up the freezer...

    Bob
     
  39. Misplaced_Canuck

    Well-Known Member  

    Posted Jun 3, 2012
    My neighbor for whom I had built a walmart type controller was reporting that when the sensor was "loose", the heat would turn on. The problem with having it in mid-air is that the sensor sees a massive amount of fluctuation. I tape my sensor sandwiched between the carboy, and a sheet of paper towel folded over down to 4x4".

    MC
     
  40. carlisle_bob

    Well-Known Member

    Posted Jun 4, 2012
    Hi

    Exactly correct. Variability is a *bad* thing inside a control loop. You want your sensor nailed in place and not going anyplace. You also don't want it blocked from air flow as you move stuff around inside the keezer. Tape it to the wall up over the hump.

    Bob
     
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