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Dubbel recipe - feedback please

Discussion in 'Recipes/Ingredients' started by EvanMyl, Feb 22, 2015.

 

  1. #1
    EvanMyl

    Well-Known Member

    Posted Feb 22, 2015
    Hi all,

    I'd very much appreciate some feedback on this dubbel recipe.

    5gl
    Briess pale malt - 65% (good Belgian base malt)
    Cara Munich - 10% (dried fruit flavors)
    Special B - 10% (fig flavors)
    Dark candi - 14% (extra alcohol and rum-raisin flavors)

    Centennial 10% 30gr for 60min
    Saaz 20gr 2.8% for 10min

    Yeast: Safale US-05 (because I got loads and it has a good alcohol tolerance)

    EBC 82 (black), IBU 21, OG 1070/FG 1017, ABV 6.9%

    Mashing at 65C for 60min.

    I'm expecting to leave it in primary for around a week (will definitely overpitch) and in secondary for 3 weeks.
    The numbers are more or less within the BJCP guidelines.
     
  2. #2
    Juno_Malone

    Well-Known Member

    Posted Feb 22, 2015
    The only recommendations I would make would be using Pilsner malt as your base malt, and using a real Belgian ale yeast as opposed to US-05. I think you'll end up missing out on a lot of the signature flavors and aromas of a Belgian Dubbel if you use a clean, neutral ale yeast like US-05.
     
  3. #3
    JKaranka

    Well-Known Member

    Posted Feb 22, 2015
    Definitively change the yeast. You could consider less Special B, potentially round up slightly the dark sugar.
     
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  4. #4
    teddy4xp

    Well-Known Member  

    Posted Feb 22, 2015
    Switch the yeast to a belgian strain
     
  5. #5
    flugelizor

    Well-Known Member

    Posted Feb 22, 2015
    It is not Belgian without Belgian yeast.
     
  6. #6
    beergolf

    Well-Known Member

    Posted Feb 22, 2015
    I'll echo the change the yeast to a Belgian strain suggestion. The flavor of a belgian is mainly yeast driven.
     
  7. #7
    EvanMyl

    Well-Known Member

    Posted Feb 23, 2015
    What are you all saying, that I should use another yeast? :p
    Many thanks for the feedback, I honestly wasn't aware the yeast type was so important for Belgian beers. I went for Safale US-05 mostly out of necessity, but it seems I'll have to order new yeasts anyway, so might as well do it right and order the right yeast for the beer.

    Can anyone recommend WLP500?
     
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  8. #8
    eman_resu

    Well-Known Member

    Posted Feb 23, 2015
    This.

    And I'd definately leave it longer than a week in primary. You could skip secondary and let it ride in primary for the whole planned 4 weeks. Or even rack after that and age in secondary if you're not in a hurry :)
     
  9. #9
    slowride77

    Member

    Posted Feb 23, 2015
    I would use WL 530 or Wyeast 3787. Second the Pilsner malt replacement.
     
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  10. #10
    pegcitybrewer

    Well-Known Member

    Posted Feb 23, 2015
    never made one but I'd have to jump on the band wagon, if you can make a starter get some liquid belgian yeast.
     
  11. #11
    BrewinHooligan

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    Posted Feb 23, 2015
    Other than the yeast, I would replace the Centennial hops for bittering and go with Saaz personally. I never use a secondary unless I am aging on fruit or something that I don't want active yeast to consume, but that is a personal preferrence thing you will get 10 different answers on asking 9 different brewers.
     
  12. #12
    giraffe

    Well-Known Member

    Posted Feb 23, 2015
    Yes the biggest problem is the lack of a belgian yeast strain. 3787 is classic and easy to use, but there are many options read the descriptions, they are often accurate. Use pils malt. But 20% crystal is also insane. This is a fairly dry beer. Id do 0-6%. The dark candy syrup will give you the dark fruit flavors you want.
     
  13. #13
    solbes

    Well-Known Member

    Posted Feb 23, 2015
    I would cut back on the Special B, but definitely keep it in there. Those flavors are needed IMO. Belgian strain for yeast and you should have a tasty beer that peaks around months 4 or 5 from brew date.
     
  14. #14
    JohnSand

    Moderator Staff Member  

    Posted Feb 24, 2015
    +1 on pilsner and 3787/530. Love Westmalle yeast.
     
  15. #15
    EvanMyl

    Well-Known Member

    Posted Feb 26, 2015
    Wouldn't Saaz impart pretty low IBUs? Or is that the point? I still need to hit around 20-25 IBU for the style.
     
  16. #16
    BrewinHooligan

    Well-Known Member

    Posted Feb 26, 2015
    You would have to use more Saaz than say Warrior to get 20ibu but it's more true to style with Saaz and just a personal prefference of mine. Bittering hops will be pretty neutral and this is a malt forward beer so whatever you use shouldn't really have a huge impact on flavor at say 20ibu
     
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