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Dual Channel Outlet help

Discussion in 'Electric Brewing' started by Lynchy217, May 28, 2017.

 

  1. #1
    Lynchy217

    Well-Known Member

    Posted May 28, 2017
    Hi all,

    I have an electric kettle with 2 2kw elements that both run off of 120v. I've been trying to make my set up on brew day a bit faster, and as part of that, I want to install an outlet on my control box that I can plug my elements into directly. My problem is that most of the dual outlets I find are tied together, so I can't run the two elements off of separate circuits. Do you guys know of any dual outlets where the outputs can be run on separate circuits, rather than being tied together? I need something rated at least 20A.

    Thanks,
    Matt
     
  2. #2
    passedpawn

    Some rando  

    Posted May 28, 2017
    Home Depot is full of 20A outlets (in fact, I think kitchens require them now by code). Looks just like a standard 15A one, but neutral slot has a extra slot thing. See pic below.

    To separate the two outlets, you have to bend and snap off the tab that goes between them. Just use a pair of needlenose pliers and bend it back and forth till it breaks of.

    [​IMG] [​IMG]
     
  3. #3
    Lynchy217

    Well-Known Member

    Posted May 28, 2017
    Ahh, I didn't realize the tab was the only electrical connection. That's perfect. Thanks!
     
  4. #4
    doug293cz

    BIABer, Beer Math Nerd, ePanel Designer, Pilot Staff Member  

    Posted May 28, 2017
    I'm pretty sure the breakaway tab is only available on non-GFCI duplex outlets.

    Brew on :mug:
     
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  5. #5
    passedpawn

    Some rando  

    Posted May 28, 2017
    Yea I think you're right. Woops.
     
  6. #6
    Lynchy217

    Well-Known Member

    Posted May 29, 2017
    So if I want built in GFCI protection, I'll need one for each element? I do have some GFCI Adapters already, but I was hoping to take this opportunity to move them to the control box.. Having 3 sets out outlets for the 2 elements and a pump seems a bit weird, though.. Hmm. Maybe I'll have to think about this a bit more..
     
  7. #7
    doug293cz

    BIABer, Beer Math Nerd, ePanel Designer, Pilot Staff Member  

    Posted May 29, 2017
    Since you are running two 2KW elements from two different [email protected] circuits, you will need separate GFCI protection for each of the 20A circuits. Easiest might be to put GFCI outlets where your panel will plug into the wall.

    Brew on :mug:
     
  8. #8
    Lynchy217

    Well-Known Member

    Posted May 30, 2017
    Unfortunately, I rent, so I'm not really at liberty to start messing with the existent outlets in my apartment. I have 2 gfci adapters that I plug into my wall and I use that for my GFCI protection. I was just looking at outlets, and I found these:

    https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0015SX3IW/?tag=skimlinks_replacement-20

    This is exactly the kind of thing I would love, since it includes a switch, GFCI protection, and an outlet in one. Unfortunately, I can only find them in a 15A version.. I can build it with single outlets and keep using the GFCI adapters for now, but it would have been cool to have everything self-contained. I'm almost considering buying the 15A ones and accepting that I can't use my elements at full power, but that seems dubious, so I think I'll stick to normal 20A outlet + switch setups for the element power and continue to use the adapters for GFCI protection.
     
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  9. #9
    pumpkin02

    Active Member

  10. #10
    Lynchy217

    Well-Known Member

    Posted May 31, 2017
    Yea, that one has a pilot light instead of a switch. I was hoping to save some space, but I can just wire up a separate switch. Would have been slick to get them together, though.
     
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