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Double Barrel

Discussion in 'Recipes/Ingredients' started by Couevas, May 8, 2008.

 

  1. #1
    Couevas

    Well-Known Member

    Posted May 8, 2008
    Anyone brew a clone of FW Double Barrel?

    Have a good AG recipe?

    I want to try it.
     
  2. #2
    DeathBrewer

    Maniacally Malty  

    Posted May 8, 2008
    are you talking about Firestone Double Barrel Ale? great beer...one of the only oak-aged beers i actually enjoy. no help on a recipe, sorry.
     
  3. #3
    Couevas

    Well-Known Member

    Posted May 9, 2008
    Yes, Firestone-Walker Double Barrel Ale.

    I grew up on it (18 and on) going to school in San Luis Obispo (about 20 miles from the brewery).
     
  4. #4
    DeathBrewer

    Maniacally Malty  

    Posted May 9, 2008
    well, here's a good start from their website:

    http://www.firestonewalker.com/index.php?c=our_pale_ales

     
  5. #5
    Couevas

    Well-Known Member

    Posted May 10, 2008
    How does this look?

    BeerSmith Recipe Printout - http://www.beersmith.com
    Recipe: Trouble Barrel
    Brewer: Chris Couevas
    Asst Brewer:
    Style: Extra Special/Strong Bitter (English Pale Ale)
    TYPE: All Grain
    Taste: (45.0) Deliciousness

    Recipe Specifications
    --------------------------
    Batch Size: 5.00 gal
    Boil Size: 7.61 gal
    Estimated OG: 1.053 SG
    Estimated Color: 16.7 SRM
    Estimated IBU: 32.7 IBU
    Brewhouse Efficiency: 65.00 %
    Boil Time: 60 Minutes

    Ingredients:
    ------------
    Amount Item Type % or IBU
    4.00 lb Pale Malt (2 Row) UK (3.0 SRM) Grain 35.56 %
    4.00 lb Pale Malt, Maris Otter (3.0 SRM) Grain 35.56 %
    2.00 lb Munich Malt (9.0 SRM) Grain 17.78 %
    1.00 lb Caramel/Crystal Malt - 40L (40.0 SRM) Grain 8.89 %
    0.25 lb Chocolate Malt (350.0 SRM) Grain 2.22 %
    0.50 oz Magnum [14.00 %] (60 min) Hops 26.7 IBU
    1.75 oz Goldings, East Kent [5.00 %] (Dry Hop 3 dHops -
    0.25 oz Styrian Goldings [5.40 %] (20 min) Hops 3.1 IBU
    0.25 oz Goldings, East Kent [5.00 %] (20 min) Hops 2.9 IBU


    Mash Schedule: Single Infusion, Medium Body, No Mash Out
    Total Grain Weight: 11.25 lb
    ----------------------------
    Single Infusion, Medium Body, No Mash Out
    Step Time Name Description Step Temp
    60 min Mash In Add 14.06 qt of water at 165.9 F 154.0 F
     
  6. #6
    DeathBrewer

    Maniacally Malty  

    Posted May 10, 2008
    definitely looks tasty! i love EKG...no wonder i like this beer.

    you'd want to add some oak chips to the secondary, i'd think.
     
  7. #7
    surfbrewer

    Well-Known Member

    Posted May 10, 2008
    I would go very, very light on the oak chips, if any at all. I also live in the San Luis area and can tell you that that beer has very little oak in it. It is a great beer but not really a true oaked beer, IMO. Regardless of whether you oak it or not let us know how it turns out.

    Cheers
     
  8. #8
    Couevas

    Well-Known Member

    Posted May 10, 2008
    I did do a little more research and found out that Firestone Walker only oaks a portion of the DBA and then blends. Furthermore, the portion that they do oak, is only in oak during primary for 7 days.

    I may not add any oak at all
     
  9. #9
    Blender

    Well-Known Member

    Posted May 10, 2008
  10. #10
    DeathBrewer

    Maniacally Malty  

    Posted May 10, 2008
    i can taste the oak in it, but you're right...it is beautifully subtle.
     
  11. #11
    Couevas

    Well-Known Member

    Posted May 10, 2008
    Maybe I will do what they do and add oak chips to the primary 24 hours in and let them sit for a week. That would give some very light oak notes.:mug:
     
  12. #12
    DeathBrewer

    Maniacally Malty  

    Posted May 10, 2008
    werd. let me know how it turns out...i may have to give this one a shot myself!

    :mug:
     
  13. #13
    Couevas

    Well-Known Member

    Posted May 10, 2008
    Oakland? One of my best friends is from Hayward. Pretty cool place. I miss Cali.:(
     
  14. #14
    Thor the Mighty

    Well-Known Member

    Posted May 10, 2008
    i just made a double barrel oaked beer. not too hard it was extract though. not too clear on the part where i have to add an oz of hops and more oak chips later though, am i supposed to just dump them in or boil them in water first?
     
  15. #15
    Couevas

    Well-Known Member

    Posted May 11, 2008
    Please post more details about the recipe.

    Is the hop addition for bittering, aroma or dry-hopping?
    Yes, boil the oak chips in water, then add them to your secondary fermenter (or primary if you are not using a secondary)
     
  16. #16
    Thor the Mighty

    Well-Known Member

    Posted May 11, 2008
    complete recipe

    4lbs ultralight malt
    2lbs ultralight extract

    grain: 6oz aromatic
    10oz crystal 75L
    3oz crystal 120L
    1oz Chocolate

    hops: 1oz willamette
    2oz kent goldings

    whirfloc

    2oz american oak chips

    whitelabs ale yeast CANNOT remember the type of yeast used sorry.

    then it says

    secondary fermentation: 1oz kent goldings hops
    1oz american oak chips (add to secondary fermentation
     
  17. #17
    Couevas

    Well-Known Member

    Posted May 11, 2008
    where is you beer at now?
    Is it still in the primary? Are you getting ready to transfer it?

    When you are ready to siphon to secondary, place boiled oak chips and extra hops in bottom of secondary and then rack beer on top of them.
     
  18. #18
    Poobah58

    Well-Known Member  

    Posted May 11, 2008
    Where does the vanilla come from that's stated on their website? How bout a drop or two of extract in the secondary or keg?
     
  19. #19
    Couevas

    Well-Known Member

    Posted May 11, 2008
    It is very very subtle. Even more so than the oak itself. It is just a byproduct of the oaking during primary. You could add it iff you want, but I wouldn't add more than a few drops.
     
  20. #20
    Couevas

    Well-Known Member

    Posted May 12, 2008
    Do you think Nottingham Dry would be appropriate?

    I am trying to convert my recipes to dry yeast since I have to ship all my ingredients now.
     
  21. #21
    DeathBrewer

    Maniacally Malty  

    Posted May 12, 2008
    i think nottingham would work. looking back on your recipe, you should cut down on your chocolate malt. 4 oz is a bit much...the other recipes call for 1-2 oz, and 4 oz will add quite a bit of color and flavor. i think they use it just to add a hint of color.
     
  22. #22
    Couevas

    Well-Known Member

    Posted May 13, 2008
    On second thought, I agree with the chocolate:

    Recipe Specifications
    --------------------------
    Batch Size: 5.00 gal
    Boil Size: 7.61 gal
    Estimated OG: 1.051 SG
    Estimated Color: 15.6 SRM
    Estimated IBU: 33.1 IBU
    Brewhouse Efficiency: 65.00 %
    Boil Time: 60 Minutes

    Ingredients:
    ------------
    Amount Item Type % or IBU
    4.00 lb Pale Malt (2 Row) UK (3.0 SRM) Grain 37.00 %
    4.00 lb Pale Malt, Maris Otter (3.0 SRM) Grain 37.00 %
    2.00 lb Munich Malt (9.0 SRM) Grain 18.50 %
    0.75 lb Caramel/Crystal Malt -120L (120.0 SRM) Grain 6.94 %
    0.06 lb Chocolate Malt (350.0 SRM) Grain 0.56 %
    1.75 oz Goldings, East Kent [5.00 %] (Dry Hop 3 dHops -
    0.50 oz Magnum [14.00 %] (60 min) Hops 27.1 IBU
    0.25 oz Goldings, East Kent [5.00 %] (20 min) Hops 2.9 IBU
    0.25 oz Styrian Goldings [5.40 %] (20 min) Hops 3.2 IBU
    4.00 oz Oak Chips (Primary 7.0 days) Misc
    1 Pkgs Nottingham (Danstar #-) Yeast-Ale
     
  23. #23
    riored4v

    Well-Known Member

    Posted Jun 2, 2008
  24. #24
    ktcsu

    New Member

    Posted Dec 13, 2008
    Just started brewing and am not set up to do all grain yet. Does anyone have an extract (with or without speciality grain) recipe for Firestone DBA?

    Thanks.
     
  25. #25
    Couevas

    Well-Known Member

    Posted Jan 19, 2009
  26. #26
    humann_brewing

    More Humann than human  

    Posted Jan 19, 2009
    Wow, this sounds really good. I think I am putting it on the short list "to brew"
     
  27. #27
    Donner

    Well-Known Member

    Posted Mar 7, 2009
    FYI Jamil broke down this beer and interviewed the head brewer on the brewing network's CAN YOU BREW IT show.

    I don't have the link right now, but it's easy to find.
     
  28. #28
    humann_brewing

    More Humann than human  

    Posted Mar 7, 2009
    Show link:
    The Brewing Network.com - :

    MP3 Link:
    http://www.thebrewingnetwork.com/membersarchive/cybi03-02-09.mp3

    They haven't quite cloned it yet as they had to do their brew before talking to the brewer. They gave a revised recipe that they have not brewed, but will update in future shows. One of the big things is that this brew is about 30 IBUs but 20 of them come during a whirpool at the end of the boil, both hops english, EKG and Styrian Golding or Fuggles as a substitute. Also, a 5 IBU addtion of Magnum at 60M and another 5 IBU of EKG at 30M. The rest is all whirlpooled at the end.
     
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